Flying Discs - Case File 62-HQ-83894, Section 4 (Serials 131-185)
Report regarding flying discs observed over Portland on September 11, 1947. Police dispatcher logs document multiple officers sighting silvery metallic objects; Officers Adair and Caldwell describe a bright, elliptical, silver-colored object at approximately 5,000 feet altitude.
Captain Thomas F. Mantell's last radio transmission: "It looks metallic and of tremendous size... I'm going up after it." On January 7, 1948, he died chasing a flying object over Fort Knox. A fighter pilot was dead, and the Air Force still couldn't say what was up there. Their own statistics told the story: of 270 flying disc accounts investigated at Wright-Patterson, 30% were weather balloons, 30% were "perhaps explainable conventionally," and 40% remained unexplained. The investigators admitted in writing they couldn't "prove or disprove the existence of some of the remaining unidentified objects as real aircraft of unconventional design." Then, on December 5, 1948, something new appeared. Green fireballs began streaking over Los Alamos and other sensitive installations. Dr. Lincoln La Paz of the University of New Mexico analyzed one over Starvation Peak: constant-intensity yellow-green light at 5200 Angstroms, horizontal path, two-second duration, no noise. Not a meteor. The matter was classified secret under Project Grudge, and by February 1949 a conference at Los Alamos had drawn G-2, ONI, OSI, and Air Materiel Command to the table. Meanwhile, the FBI was quietly doing lab work for Project Sign, running petrographic soil analysis at Wright-Patterson's request. The Bureau had supposedly stepped back. It hadn't.
- FBI Laboratory conducted petrographic-geological soil analysis for Project Sign at the request of Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson AFB (September 1948)
- The "green fireball" phenomenon began December 5, 1948 near sensitive military installations; it was classified "secret" and investigated under Project Grudge
- Dr. Lincoln La Paz (University of New Mexico) analyzed the Starvation Peak incident: constant-intensity yellow-green light (5200 Angstroms), horizontal path, two-second duration, no noise — characteristics inconsistent with normal meteorite falls
- A February 16, 1949 conference at Los Alamos brought together G-2, ONI, OSI, and Air Materiel Command T-2 to discuss the green fireball phenomena
- Captain Thomas F. Mantell was killed on January 7, 1948 while pursuing a flying saucer over Fort Knox; his last transmission: "It looks metallic and of tremendous size... I'm going up after it"
- Air Force investigation at Wright-Patterson documented 240 domestic and 30 foreign flying disc accounts; approximately 30% were weather balloons, 30% were "perhaps explainable conventionally," and 40% remained unexplained
- Air Force evaluation teams stated: "We can't prove or disprove the existence of some of the remaining unidentified objects as real aircraft of unconventional design"
- The investigation was reclassified from "Flying Discs" to "Unconventional Aircraft" by G-2, 4th Army
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View PDF ↗Cover/folder identification page for FBI Case File 62-HQ-83894, Section 4. Shows file markings, barcode, and archival reference numbers.
## Classifications
- Case: 0062 83894
- Volume: 4
- Serial: 131
- Serials Range: 131-185
## Organizations
- FBI Central Records Center
- FBI Headquarters (HQ)
## References
- RRP003IXGX (Barcode)
- 8/11/1274191 (Filing reference)
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View PDF ↗FBI office memorandum from SAC Portland to Director FBI regarding flying discs observations in Portland, Oregon on September 11, 1947.
## Dates
- Report Date: October 9, 1947
- Incident Date: September 11, 1947
- Reference Teletype: September 13, 1947
## Locations
- Portland, Oregon
- District 18 (extreme northeast section)
- District 14 (further south)
- N.E. 25th Avenue and Saratoga Court
## People
- Robert D. Adair (4325 S.E. Madison Ave., Portland) - Police officer, District 18
- J. R. Caldwell (7652 S.E. Lincoln St., Portland, Oregon) - Police officer, District 18, Adair's partner
- Chief of Police Jenkins - Sighted object while traveling south on N. Williams Avenue
- Officer H. S. Raney - Jenkins' driver
## Observations
- First notice: 5:21 P.M. from District 18 officers
- Radio request to District 14: 5:23 P.M.
- Chief Jenkins report: 5:24 P.M.
- District 14 response: 5:27 P.M. (saw nothing unusual)
**Adair's Account:**
- Very bright reflection of sun on silvery metal object
- Coming from east, made wide turn over city, disappeared to south
- Estimated speed: 150 mph
- Estimated altitude: 5,000 feet
- Duration: 2 minutes
- Shape: Round (though glare may have hidden true outline)
- No oscillation visible, steady flight
- Assessment: Ordinary metal airplane reflecting afternoon sun
**Caldwell's Account:**
- Similar course as Adair
- First sighting: ~3 miles away, ~2 miles high
- Traveling faster than conventional airplane
- Much larger than conventional airplane
- Shape: Elliptical
- Did not bank or tip
- Color: Very bright silver
## References
- Recorded/Indexed information visible
- Record number 62-1531
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View PDF ↗Continuation of Portland flying disc case report (PD 62-1531), documenting additional witness accounts.
## People
- Chief of Police Leon V. Jenkins - Traveling south on N. Williams Avenue near Russell St.
- Officer H. S. Raney - Jenkins' driver
- Patrolman H. S. Raney - Additional statement
- Robert W. Shaylor (4810 N. Fessenden St., Portland) - Officer in District 14 on September 11, 1947
- Officer Donald W. Cowling - Shaylor's partner in District 14
- Fred M. White - Assistant City Editor, "The Oregonian" newspaper
## Observations
**Chief Jenkins:**
- Received radio call requesting District 14 to observe unknown object
- Observed round silver object, ~10,000 feet high
- Traveling northeast to southwest
- Initially thought it was weather balloon
- Speed appeared extremely great
- Shape seemed to change: started round, became egg-shaped as it turned south
- Disappeared in ~30 seconds
- Assessment: Could not be weather balloon due to speed
**Patrolman Raney:**
- Object straight ahead, traveling away from car
- Driving south on N. Williams Avenue
- Appeared as glare of sun on object
- Unable to determine shape
- Very high altitude, traveling extremely fast
- Out of sight after 4-5 city blocks at 25 mph
- Never seen object at such extreme height
- Without sun reflection, would not have been visible
- Assessment: Could possibly have been reflection from large airplane at great altitude
**Shaylor and Cowling:**
- Received call to watch for object
- Scanned sky from vantage point in open territory
- Saw nothing at that time
- Saw no airplanes either
## Locations
- Portland, Oregon
- N. Williams Avenue near Russell St.
- District 14
## References
- "The Oregonian" (Portland daily newspaper) - September 12, 1947 article
- Multiple calls received by newspaper from other persons reporting object
- Newspaper has no record of identities of callers
## Organizations
- Portland Police Department
- "The Oregonian" newspaper
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View PDF ↗FBI memorandum from SAC Anchorage to Director FBI regarding flying discs report from Bethel, Alaska.
## Dates
- Memorandum Date: October 18, 1947
- Incident Date: July 1947 (exact date not specified)
- Sighting Time: ~10 PM
## Locations
- Bethel, Alaska
- Bethel Airport
- Route direction: Bethel to Nome (northwesterly)
- Approx 5-10 miles from airport
## People
- Jack Peck (flyer) - Employed by Al Jones Flying Company in Bethel, Alaska
- Vin Daly - Peck's co-pilot
- Military Intelligence (previous contact efforts) - Reported initial observation
## Organizations
- Al Jones Flying Company
- Civil Aeronautics Administration station at Bethel
- Military Intelligence
## Aircraft
- DC-3 (Peck and Daly's aircraft)
- Estimated object size: C-54 without fuselage
## Observations
**General Conditions:**
- July day, completely clear of clouds
- Early part of day, daylight entire night
- Flying weather extremely good
- Coming into Bethel Airport
**Sighting Details:**
- Object immediately to Peck's left
- Apparently observed simultaneously by Daly
- Both manipulated plane controls attempting to miss object
- Made 45-degree turn to get away from object
- Object appeared to be going away from them after turn
**Physical Description:**
- Appeared to be flying wing
- Size: About C-54 without fuselage
- Dark colored, definite shape
- Did not blend into sky, had definite concise outline
- No visible propeller
- No exhaust from jet propulsion
- No vapor trails
**Performance:**
- Peck's altitude: 1,000 feet
- Peck's speed: 170 mph with manifold pressure at ~42 inches
- Object estimated speed: 300 mph
- Object altitude: 1,000 feet
- Peck tried to catch up but unsuccessful
**Assessments:**
- No radio interference noted
- Unable to describe color other than "dark but of definite shape"
- Both Peck and Daly clearly observed the object
- CAA station reported no aircraft in vicinity
## References
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View PDF ↗Brief closing paragraph of Bethel, Alaska flying disc report.
## People
- Jack Peck (flyer) - Described as well known flyer
- Vin Daly - Described as well known flyer
- Assessment: Both reliable and responsible people
## Assessments
## References
- Anchorage File 100-1406
- Submitted for information of the Bureau
## Organizations
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View PDF ↗FBI memorandum from SAC Albany to Director FBI regarding flying discs report, specifically about informant A. Courtney Parker.
## Dates
- Memorandum Date: November 1, 1947
- Letter Date: September 17, 1947
- Reurlet Date: September 25, 1947
## Locations
## People
- A. Courtney Parker - Informant, resident of South Royalton, Vermont
- Assessment: Claims unusually good eyesight; can see bees further than anyone else
## Observations
- Parker reported seeing flying discs
- Stated all information in letter sent to Bureau dated September 17, 1947
- Claims no one else in South Royalton saw these discs
- Believes he saw them due to his exceptionally good eyesight
- Speculates: Flying discs possibly out of range of normal vision
## Assessments
- Agents asked Parker to furnish additional information directly to Air Forces
- Air Forces now handle matters of this type
## Actions
## References
- Case File: 62-689
- Recorded/Indexed information visible
## Organizations
- FBI Albany office
- Air Forces
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View PDF ↗Handwritten letter regarding flying discs observation. Partially legible cursive handwriting.
## Dates
- Reference: 70-55-68 (appears to be file notation)
- Mention of "2 months ago" in text
## Locations
- Glendale (appears in address heading)
- Idaho (appears in address heading, abbreviated as "ID")
## Observations (Handwritten account)
- Writer reports seeing flying discs approximately 2 months prior
- Multiple people observed the phenomenon
- Flying objects described as having "unrecognizable" appearance
- Objects observed against illuminated night sky
- Description of sighting "made imaginative" the observer
- Objects observed making maneuvers
- Hopeful that "could imagine the whole thing was just the same time especially...thousand of miles"
## Assessments
- Observer expresses skepticism about their own account
- Mentions hope that experience could be explained away
## References
- File notation: 62-3894 (visible on page)
- Recorded stamp visible (partially readable)
## Redactions
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View PDF ↗Handwritten continuation of letter regarding flying disc observations. Cursive handwriting discusses recent sightings and objects in motion.
## Observations
- Objects described as "world guess" of what was seen
- References to "good idea" being blocked from view
- Objects described making turns and directional changes
- References to approximately "South Rockfield" location
- Mentions of "blue blazes" - objects did not make noise
- Objects heading approximately south
- Reference to time/temporal aspects ("one time bombs")
- Objects described as "only steady flight"
- Objects seen flying over/at varied altitudes
- Writer expresses skepticism about observations
- People thinking they were "slightly queer" about the sights
## References
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View PDF ↗Continuation of handwritten letter discussing flying disc observations and trying to reach FBI with information.
## Observations
- Correspondent mentions seeing flying discs approximately 2 months prior
- Writer refers to being "the smartest man in the world in own P.B.D" (unclear abbreviation)
- References to brother's observations and credibility
- Mentions "finest people on earth" and others attempting to contact authorities
- Writer expresses concern that information is not being properly handled
- References to being told by friends/neighbors about sightings
- Mentions "best did she whole evening lying down at the" (handwriting unclear)
- Person thinks writer is "slightly queer" to have seen objects
## Assessments
- Writer concerned about credibility of observers
- Expresses hope that FBI will help explain observations
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View PDF ↗Official response letter from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to Mrs. A. McCaul in Glendale, Brooklyn, New York regarding her communication about flying discs.
## Dates
- Letter Date: November 1, 1947
- Recipient's Letter Date: October 28, 1947
## People
- Mrs. A. McCaul (Recipient)
- J. Edgar Hoover (Director, FBI)
## Locations
- 70-33 68th Place
- Glendale, Brooklyn, New York
## Assessment
- FBI Director expresses appreciation for correspondent's letter
- Brief acknowledgment of receipt
- No substantive engagement with content
## Special Notes
- Handwritten note added: "This woman rambles on and furnishes no specific information about anything"
- Document marked for mail routing/communications section
- Mailed November 3, 1947 P.M.
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View PDF ↗Handwritten letter from correspondent in Elizabeth, New York addressing J. Edgar Hoover at FBI Washington D.C. regarding flying disc observations and investigations.
## Dates
## People
- J. Edgar Hoover (Director, FBI)
- Unknown correspondent
## Locations
- Elizabeth, New York (return address area)
- Washington D.C. (FBI headquarters)
## Observations & Questions
- Correspondent discusses multiple flying discs observations over Main Street and western states
- Asks if FBI is still investigating "flying saucers"
- References July 9, 1947 issue of Arizona Republic publication
- Mentions newsreel showing Russian scientists examining crashed flying saucer
- Questions whether FBI was confused by incident
- References to third "flying saucer mystery" involving anchor named Richard
- Correspondent concerned about information disclosure regarding observations
- Asks whether observations prove "saucers" are real
## Assessments
- Correspondent believes flying saucers are real and not mirage
- Expresses concern about government knowledge and concealment
- References science fiction writers' similar imaginings
## References
- Arizona Republic (newspaper)
- July 9, 1947 publication date
- Amazing Stories magazine referenced
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View PDF ↗Continuation of handwritten letter from correspondent to FBI, with signature and postscript containing editorial reference.
## Dates
## People
- Correspondent (possibly from midwest location)
- Ray A. Palmer (Editor, mentioned in postscript)
## Observations
- Correspondent references brother's observation of flying discs in Texas (June 28, 1947 at 3:45 PM)
- Seven to ten objects observed
- Objects flew directly over house
- Objects made no noise
- Objects heading approximately south toward Rockfield area
- Objects described as blue/blazing appearance
- Family witnessed objects
- Reference to later Illinois sighting of same objects
## References
- "Amazing Stories" magazine mentioned
- Ray A. Palmer (Editor) - noted that article published in September 1949 p. 157
- Article references "Circle-winged Plane"
- Los Angeles theater newsreel showing Russian scientists examining crashed flying saucer
- FBI investigation status unclear
## Assessments
- Correspondent emphasizes credibility of observers
- Hopes FBI will investigate and provide answers
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View PDF ↗Official response letter from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to Mrs. Milo A. Durand in Elizabethtown, New York regarding her communication about flying discs and patriotic suggestions.
## Dates
- Letter Date: November 10, 1947
- Recipient's Letter Date: November 5, 1947
## People
- Mrs. Milo A. Durand (Recipient)
- J. Edgar Hoover (Director, FBI)
## Locations
## Assessment
- FBI Director thanks correspondent for letter
- Acknowledges "patriotic motives" of recipient
- Appreciates suggestions concerning subject of flying discs
- Standard acknowledgment response
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- Communications Section
## Administrative Details
- Communications Section mailed letter November 10, 1947 P.M.
- File reference visible in routing
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View PDF ↗Handwritten letter from Joseph W. Omtline in Ridgewood, Queens, New York, dated November 2, 1947, regarding flying discs and FBI investigation.
## Dates
## People
- Joseph W. Omtline (6071 69th Avenue, Ridgewood, Brooklyn 27, New York)
- Unidentified citizens with questions
## Locations
- Ridgewood, Queens, New York
- Washington D.C. (FBI location)
## Questions Posed to FBI
- Has FBI been investigating flying saucers?
- Is FBI still investigating the flying saucers?
- Were copies of July 1947 Arizona Republic published in Phoenix confiscated by FBI?
- Was author mentioned in newsreel confused by incident?
- Is FBI investigating the "flying saucer mystery"?
- Does FBI consider knowledge of flying saucers too dangerous for general public?
## Observations
- References to theater newsreel showing Russian scientists examining crashed flying saucer
- Mentions being "suppressed by FBI"
- Questions if FBI desires to keep public uninformed
- Correspondent seems to think flying saucers are real and government is concealing
## Assessments
- Correspondent requests answers to questions
- Expresses concern about government concealment
- Questions whether this represents something tangible or mirage
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View PDF ↗Continuation of handwritten letter providing additional details and references about flying saucer observations and research.
## Observations
- References to four powers/governments involved in discussion of observations
- Mentions Los Angeles theater newsreel depicting Russian scientists examining crashed flying saucer
- Newsreel reportedly suppressed by FBI
- Information about saucer observations given on June 29 Sunday over WUN radio station
- Reference to "The Latest News" radio program at 8:00-8:15 A.M. with Charlie Sebastian
- Reports of saucer sighted over Illinois previous afternoon
- Correspondent states this may have been same saucer
## References
- Arizona Republic (newspaper publication)
- Amazing Stories magazine
- Circle-winged Plane article (published September 1949, p. 157)
- WUN radio station
- "The Latest News" radio program
## Assessments
- Correspondent emphasizes need for verification
- Requests FBI provide answer about observations
- Notes others also asking about saucers
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View PDF ↗Official response letter from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to Mr. Joseph W. Omtline in Ridgewood, Brooklyn, New York regarding his inquiry about flying discs and FBI investigation.
## Dates
- Letter Date: November 8, 1947
- Recipient's Letter Date: November 2, 1947
## People
- Mr. Joseph W. Omtline (6071 69th Avenue, Ridgewood, Brooklyn 27, New York)
- J. Edgar Hoover (Director, FBI)
## Assessment
- FBI Director states information contained in letter has been declared confidential for official use only
- Bureau unable to assist the recipient
- States recipient will "draw no inference" from inability to comply
- Standard denial response
## Special Notes
- Handwritten note added: "This individual asked questions concerning flying sacs and the Bureau's investigation of Russians"
- Postal Guide reflects Ridgewood is branch of Brooklyn Station
- Communications Section handling
- Mailed November 8, 1947 P.M.
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- Brooklyn Station
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View PDF ↗Letter from Port Allegany, Pennsylvania to FBI Pittsburgh office reporting hearsay about flying saucer origin claim made by Red Cross official.
## Dates
- Letter Date: November 18, 1947
- Event Date: November 6, 1947
- Incident Reported: Following Red Cross dinner event
## Locations
- Port Allegany, Pennsylvania
- Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (FBI office)
- Spain (origin claimed)
- Washington D.C. (Government location mentioned)
## People
- Dr. H. B. Cro[nwell] (local practicing dentist)
- Mr. J. Lippincott (Director of Eastern Area, Red Cross, Pittsburgh, PA)
- Mrs. Mary C. Saler, P.M. (Letter signatory)
## Observations
- Mr. Lippincott allegedly stated that "saucers" seen in various parts of country were actually from Spain
- Lippincott claimed this determination was made by government in Washington
- Lippincott claimed this fact was not being made known publicly
- Lippincott stated he had been in Europe and Spain
- Dr. Cro[nwell] is active in Methodist Church and local Protestant Men's Club
## Assessments
- Letter writer questions advisability of Red Cross official disseminating this information
- Expresses concern about credibility given Federal Government endorsement of Red Cross
- Worries information could spread due to organizational authority
- Questions whether spreading such "off the record" information is advisable
## Organizations
- Red Cross (Eastern Area, Pittsburgh)
- Methodist Church
- Federal Government
- Protestant Men's Club
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View PDF ↗Handwritten letter dated January 5, 1948 from citizen in Ohio describing flying disc sightings and inquiring about FBI's involvement in investigation. Recipient requested to keep correspondence original for future use.
## Dates
## Locations
- Covington, Ohio (sender location)
- Washington D.C. (FBI location)
- Antarctica (mentioned)
## People
- Marion Beucher (signatory) - Government employee, Bainbow City, Antarctica
- Unidentified brother who observed flying discs
- Unidentified female correspondent
## Observations
- Correspondent reports thinking about "flying discs" since FBI opened operations
- Mentions solving possible solution
- References to observations called "at our home" previously
- Mentions "possible solution" to discs
- References to brother seeing discs approximately 2 months prior
## Assessments
- Correspondent references "world guess" about observations
- States "it is definitely, not all supposed to be seen"
- Warns about discussing observations with others
## Special Notes
- Letter marked "RECORDED" and "INDEXED"
- Sender indicates stationed in Antarctica with "Government"
- References "Rainbow City" and communication through U.S. mail
- Handwritten note about correspondence needing security warning and mention of threat
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- U.S. Government
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View PDF ↗Handwritten letter dated approximately January 1948 describing personal observation of flying discs near home and references to magazine articles and newsreel coverage. Writer cites "Amazing Stories" magazine publication from July 1947.
## Dates
- Letter Date: Approximately January 1948
- Sighting Date: June 28, 1947 at 3:45 P.M.
- Magazine Issue: July 1947 (Amazing Stories)
## Locations
- Illinois (sighting location)
- South Rockfield, Wisconsin (brother's farm location, 16 miles southwest of Milwaukee)
- Texas (alternative sighting mentioned)
- Los Angeles (newsreel theater location)
## People
- Correspondent's brother (witness to June 28, 1947 sighting)
- Correspondent
- Charlie Sebastian (radio personality)
## Observations
- Brother witnessed flying discs June 28, 1947 at 3:45 P.M.
- Seven to ten objects observed
- Objects flew directly over home
- Objects described as "blue blaze" colored
- Made no noise and were blading approximately south
- Objects heading toward Rockfield area
- Objects observed simultaneously by correspondent and brother
- Same afternoon, discs were seen over Illinois (possibly same ones)
- Newsreel showed Russian scientists examining crashed flying saucer
- Information given June 29 on WUN radio "The Latest News" (8:00-8:15 A.M.)
## References
- "Amazing Stories" magazine (July 1947 issue)
- Ray A. Palmer (Editor) - article reference
- Article: "Circle-winged Plane" (September 1949, p. 157)
- Los Angeles theater newsreel
- WUN radio station
- Charlie Sebastian (radio personality)
## Assessments
- Correspondent emphasizes credibility of witnesses
- References outside corroboration through radio/newsreel reports
- Hopes for FBI verification and explanation
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View PDF ↗Continuation of handwritten letter describing editorial requests, additional sighting details, and personal theories about flying disc origin. Writer discusses correspondence with magazine editors and theory about government operation.
## Observations
- Editor (Ray A. Palmer, Amazing Stories) has been threatened
- Magazine editor called with requests for letters from readers who saw flying discs
- Editor mentions in "Amazing Stories" (Jan. 1948) on p. 162 letter from W.C. Lefferin
- Letter states: "yes, We Remember!"
- Newsclipping enclosed showing "Circle-winged Plane" from September 1946, p. 157
- Additional "thumb nail sketches" showing nature of objects
## Theories Proposed
- Correspondent theorizes flying saucers are not mirage
- Suggests they could be government operation from "Rainbow City" in Antarctica
- References world government conspiracy involving all oppressed peoples
- Suggests disc might be government-directed from south pole warm spot
- Theory that saucers are testing ground equipment/technology
- References "utopia" dreamed by science-fiction writers as location possibility
- If existing at South Pole near warm spot, implies advanced technology
- Theory: saucers visiting planet, intending people to surrender old planet
- Reference to freedom and liberty concerns
## References
- Amazing Stories magazine (January 1948 issue, p. 162)
- W.C. Lefferin (letter writer)
- Circle-winged Plane article
- Newspaper clipping attached showing thumbnails sketches
## Assessments
- Writer concerned about government concealment
- References world-wide expedition planning
- Speculates about whether saucers are international project or extraterrestrial
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View PDF ↗Continuation of lengthy handwritten letter describing theories about flying saucers' origin and references to government and organization claiming responsibility. Includes editorial note about printing decision.
## Theories & Claims
- Flying saucers described as world-wide "mapping expedition"
- Theory: Only few saucers belong to world government of oppressed peoples
- References government "directed and advised by an organization headed by 'The ancient Three, Who we are, Who will be'"
- Organization claims to have sent message "by way of us" a year ago
- Organization headquarters allegedly "Rainbow City, Antarctica"
- Permission given to print the letter if desired
## Assessments
- Writer suggests saucers are manifestation of secret world government
- Claims organization represents all oppressed and dominated nations
- References messianic or utopian world government concepts
## Editorial Notes
## Organizations/Entities Mentioned
- "The ancient Three" - alleged leadership
- "Rainbow City" - alleged headquarters
- Secret world government
- Science-fiction writers guild
## Redactions
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View PDF ↗Final continuation of lengthy handwritten correspondence with additional theories and request for government contact, ending with editorial commentary from magazine editor.
## Additional Theories
- Writer theorizes force cannot compel state clearance and start of "veritable cavern" shocked into sanity by utter destruction
- Speculation about "last war is our last hope" concept
- References to "shooting in the dark" due to editor knowledge
- Writer questions whether saucers are shooting in dark or editor hiding knowledge
- Theorizes about potential origins and whether this represents last "war" scenario
## Writer's Intent
- Correspondence presented as warning letter through U.S. mail to FBI
- Sender emphasizes confidential nature
- Requests FBI keep correspondence confidential
- Indicates possible threat/warning content requiring careful handling
## Editorial Comment (Editor's Note)
- Editor expresses doubt about letter's veracity
- Notes leaders likely forgot previous article
- Mentions editorial was contacted about flying saucers
- References to letters from readers about observations
- Notes some correspondents think saucers are at "utopia"
- References freedom of speech and liberty concerns
- Notes writing letter as warning with threat implications
- References to "Rainbow City" and freedom of speech theme
## Special Notes
- Document marked "RECORDED" and "INDEXED"
- Correspondence appears edited before submission to FBI
- Editor questions validity of claims made
## Signatures
- Original writer: Marion Beucher (signed)
- Location: "604 Main St, Menomonee Falls, Wis"
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View PDF ↗Official response letter from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to Miss Marion Beucher in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin regarding her communication about flying saucers.
## Dates
- Letter Date: January 14, 1948
- Recipient's Letter Date: January 5, 1948
## People
- Miss Marion Beucher (604 West Main Street, Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin)
- J. Edgar Hoover (Director, FBI)
## Assessment
- FBI Director thanks correspondent for forwarding information
- Notes facts related do not reflect violation of Federal statute within FBI's investigative jurisdiction
- Appreciates thoughts prompting correspondence
## Special Notes
- Handwritten note added: "Correspondent reports correspondence she has had with Ziff-Davis Publishing Company in connection with the 'flying saucers' which were observed by her brother. She is of the opinion that this publication may be trying to conceal information related to our Nation's security and she mentions a threat that does not refer injury to person or property"
- Communications Section handling
- Mailed January 15, 1948 P.M.
- File reference: 62-83894-197
## Organizations
- Ziff-Davis Publishing Company (mentioned as correspondent)
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
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View PDF ↗Handwritten personal letter dated January 29, 1948 from Covington, Ohio to FBI Director in Washington D.C. describing flying disc observations and proposing various theories about origin and capabilities.
## Dates
## Locations
- Covington, Ohio (sender)
- Washington D.C. (FBI)
- Texas/Gulf area (sighting location)
- Foreign country (theorized)
## Observations
- Correspondent reports thinking about flying discs since FBI opened operations
- References to possible solution being worked on
- Mentions observation "called at our home"
- References brother's observation of discs
- Discs described as possible candidates for "S.O.D" (unclear abbreviation, possibly "Special Operations Device")
- Objects could make 8,000 mile trips
- Theory: If objects could be made to "happen safely early" may not be possible
- Discs described as creating "plainly visible" effect
- References objects making harsh sounds and appearing silver/metallic
## Theories
- Writer speculates about self-propelled bombs
- References foreign country launching discs to target US cities
- Theory: Discs could aim at various exact range from lake to city
- Only way discs could be stopped would be "to make some state" suggestion
- References to "plainly visible" pattern suggesting reconnaissance
- Theory about discs dropping bombs on cities from exact range location
## Assessments
- Writer expresses concern about potential threat
- Questions whether observations represent weapon development
- Warns about possible foreign threat
## References
- FTZ file reference visible (EX-93)
- February 16, 1948 date stamp
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## Observations
- Objects observed appearing as "ellipse" when viewed from certain angle
- Objects looked like "flying wing" design
- Discs dropped in Gulf (Texas) area during observations
- Objects no doubt dropped some items in various places
- One object seen low (possibly near lake)
- No doubt aimed at specific location
- Objects appeared to have propulsion system
- Reference to possible "wrong" aspect with observation
- Objects appeared plainly visible during fair season
- Ring visible on object (possibly halo or ring structure)
## Theoretical Analysis
- Writer proposes self-propelled bomb theory
- Suggests foreign country responsible
- References exact targeting capability
- Theory about possible state defense/counter-measure
## Assessments
- Writer emphasizes objects appeared real
- Suggests urgent investigation needed
- References previous Sunday evening observation at 8:00 P.M.
- Notes FBI operatives called at home
- Writer concerned about government awareness and preparedness
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View PDF ↗Continuation of handwritten correspondence discussing flying disc observations and theoretical capabilities. References to "bombs" and aerial trajectories visible.
## Observations
- Objects described as potentially armed with bombs
- Discussion of how objects could explode and cause "odd of experience"
- If projectile plunged in lake - would result in explosive effect
- Range finding aspects discussed
- Objects described as making circles in sky
- Reference to objects remaining in motion maintaining altitude
## Assessments
- Writer theorizes about destruction potential
- Discusses circular flight patterns
- Analyzes distance and targeting capabilities
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## Observations
- Writer concludes observations about flying saucers being real
- States neighbors think writer is "slightly queer" for believing
## People
- N. J. Marshall (or similar - signature partially unclear)
- Signatory location: Covington, Ohio
## Assessments
- Correspondent emphasizes seriousness of observations
- Hopes FBI will find letter helpful
## Administrative Details
- Mail routing stamps visible
- Document marked for filing
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- Letter Date: February 5, 1948
- Recipient's Letter Date: January 29, 1948
## People
- Mr. N. J. Marshall (Rural Route One, Covington, Ohio)
- J. Edgar Hoover (Director, FBI)
## Assessment
- FBI Director thanks correspondent for expressing views
- Acknowledges receipt and appreciation
## Organizations
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- Letter Date: February 12, 1948
- Enclosed Document Date: February 4, 1948
## Locations
## People
- Lieutenant Colonel Donald Springer, A-2 (United States Air Force, Hamilton Air Force Base, California)
- Lieutenant General Stratemeyer (Headquarters, Air Defense Command, Mitchel Air Force Base, New York)
- Assistant Director D.M. Ladd (FBI, recipient)
## Key Content
- Transmits confidential letter from Air Defense Command
- Addresses to Commanding Generals: First, Second, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, Fourteenth Air Forces
- Subject: Investigation of flying discs by Air Force personnel
- References to coordination with FBI offices
- Questions about Bureau Bulletin No. 57 (Series 1947, dated October 1, 1947)
- Asks whether recent Air Force instructions represent change in Bureau policy
- Clarifies whether Bureau Bulletin No. 57 still applies
## Organizations
- Air Defense Command
- United States Air Force
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- Multiple numbered Air Forces (First through Fourteenth)
## References
- Bureau Bulletin No. 57, dated October 1, 1947
- Confidential letter classification
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## Organizations
- Headquarters, Air Defense Command
- Mitchel Air Force Base, New York
- First, Second, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, Fourteenth Air Forces
- CIC (Counter Intelligence Corps)
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
## Subject
"Investigation and Reporting of 'Flying Disc' Incidents"
## Key Directives
1. Numbered air forces responsible for prompt investigation and reporting of flying disc incidents within respective areas
- Air Force A-2s determine extent of investigation
- Avoid futile expenditure of military funds and manpower
2. Investigation procedures for "Flying Discs"
- Investigate as Counter Intelligence Incident Cases
- USAF Operating Intelligence Echelon structure applies
- Interview witnesses carefully (avoid redundant interviews if possible)
- If reasonable indication of hoax or publicity-seeking fabrication: no further effort but submit report to FBI office concerned
- CIC personnel may be utilized for investigation
- Coordinate with FBI office concerned per letter D 333.3 EX, "Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigation of Flying Disc Incidents," dated September 3, 1947
3. Reporting Requirements
- Narrative style, covering only pertinent facts
- Where source credibility cannot be established, report merely states same
- Two types of reports:
a. Spot Reports (fragmentary) on all incidents, followed by Letter Report
b. Letter Reports for completed investigations
4. Report submission procedures
- Duplicate copies submitted promptly, usually by regular mail
- Spot reports of substantial character (credible witnesses, technical data) may be transmitted by TWX
- Submitted to Headquarters USAF, Directorate of Intelligence
- One informational copy to command ATTN: AC of S, Intelligence
- Classified at least CONFIDENTIAL
## References
- D 333.3 EX (Letter reference)
- Counter Intelligence Incident Cases procedures
- Classified CONFIDENTIAL
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View PDF ↗Continuation of Air Force Headquarters directive regarding flying disc investigation procedures.
## Additional Provisions
- Background information compatible with atmospheric phenomena observations may be transmitted by TWX
- Reports submitted to Headquarters USAF, Directorate of Intelligence, Air Intelligence Requirements Section
- One informational copy forwarded to Air Defense Command, ATTN: AC of S, Intelligence
- Reports classified at least CONFIDENTIAL
## Signature Authority
- By Command of Lieutenant General Stratemeyer
- Richard W. Geuss
- Captain, USAF
- Acting Assistant Adjutant General
## Technical Requirements
- Incident criteria: "patent credibility of witness is beyond challenge"
- Technical data: "compatible with his observations of an occurrence obviously not atmospheric or celestial phenomena"
## Organizations
- Headquarters USAF
- Air Intelligence Requirements Section
- Air Defense Command
- All numbered Air Forces
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- Letter Date: February 20, 1948
- Reference Letter Date: February 12, 1948
## Locations
## People
- FBI Director (recipient)
- RGF/rb (initials of correspondence handler)
## Subject
"Flying Discs - Security Matter - X"
## Assessment & Policy Clarification
- Bureau Bulletin No. 57 dated October 1, 1947 still applies with respect to flying discs
- Bureau is conducting NO investigations concerning flying discs
- FBI will give Air Forces any information coming to Bureau's attention
- FBI will receive any information Air Forces volunteer
- Headquarters of Air Forces in Washington are being contacted by Bureau
- Purpose: Ensure no misunderstanding as to Bureau's position on flying discs
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- Air Forces (United States)
- Bureau Headquarters (Washington D.C.)
## References
- Bureau Bulletin No. 57 (October 1, 1947)
- Communications Section handling
- File reference: EX-116, 62-83894-140
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View PDF ↗FBI Director's response letter to Kenneth L. Fraeter regarding a matter referred by Senator Kenneth S. Wherry.
## Date
March 24, 1948
## People
- Kenneth L. Fraeter, Benkelman, Nebraska (correspondent)
- J. Edgar Hoover, Director, FBI (author of response)
- Senator Kenneth S. Wherry (referrer)
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- U.S. Senate
- Secretary of the Army, National Defense Building
## Content Summary
Hoover's response states that Fraeter's letter of March 14, 1948 to Senator Wherry regarding an unspecified matter has been forwarded to the FBI for attention. Hoover notes that the subject matter is outside the FBI's jurisdiction and states he has referred the communication to the Secretary of the Army at the National Defense Building, suggesting that Fraeter direct any additional information to that office.
## Routing and Administrative
- Recorded: 62-8394.143
- CC: Senator Wherry
- Communications Section, mailed March 25, 1948 P.M.
- Stamp: "Name of town per Postal Guide"
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View PDF ↗FBI Laboratory Work Sheet documenting petrographic-geological examination of soil samples related to Project Sign.
## Date
Recorded September 22, 1948; Examination completed September 14, 1948
## Organizations
- FBI Laboratory
- Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio
- SCIARC-3 (requesting office)
## File References
- File #: 62-33894-146
- Lab #: PC-23142 CO
- Reference communication: Letter 9/9
- Date received: 9/17
- Evid. 9/14, Reg. 1171535
## Examination Details
- Subject: Project "SIGN" - Examination of Soil
- Examination requested by: Commanding General, Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio (Attn: SCIARC-3)
- Examination type: Micro (Petrographic-Geologic)
- Examination by: JGJONES (examiner initials)
- Result of Examination: [Returned 10/18/48 Reg. Mail] (signed notation)
## Specimens
## Administrative
- Stamp: "RECORDED 9/22/48"
- File stamp: 52NOV2 1948 (circulation/distribution notation)
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## Locations
- Valley City, N.D.
- Washington, D.C.
## Dates
- October 15, 1948 (letter date)
- October 23, 1948 (FBI recorded receipt date)
## Observations
- Handwritten correspondence referencing routing to FBI headquarters
- Contains address information: 609 Candlepin, Valley City, N.D.
- References an organization or entity at "7/13 T., Washington, D.C. near 9th Street"
- Letter discusses sending or routing material related to an item or "wing"
- Mentions routing procedure and document handling
## Notes
- Page includes significant handwritten annotations and filing marks
- Document appears to be part of correspondence trail in FBI case file
- Original formatting preserved with mounted materials
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## Dates
## Organizations
- FBI
- U.S. Department of Justice
## Observations
- Page includes internal FBI received stamp dated Nov 23
- Shows routing to "INTERNAL WRITTEN" and FBI marking
- Faded attachment or continuation document visible below received stamp
## Notes
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## People
- Mrs. E. J. Holliday (sender)
- John Edgar Hoover (Director, FBI)
## Organizations
- Federal Bureau of Investigation
- U.S. Department of Justice
## Locations
- Valley City, North Dakota
- Washington, D.C.
## Observations
Letter from civilian correspondent (Mrs. Holliday) to FBI Director regarding unidentified objects. Writer thanks Hoover for acknowledgment of patriotic motives regarding subject matter mentioned.
## References
## Redactions
Minor stamping and filing marks visible.
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## Observations
- Full page of typewritten FBI correspondence
- Content heavily faded but text present throughout
- Multiple routing stamps and filing marks
- Document reference numbers visible
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Contains substantial FBI inter-office correspondence
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## Organizations
- Federal Bureau of Investigation
- Air Materiel Command
- Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
## Locations
## Observations
Internal FBI routing memo for document/package transmittal. References case to Air Materiel Command at Wright-Patterson AFB. Contains standard distribution markings and special handling instructions for mailing and file management.
## References
- Case references: 62-83894, Project "SIGN"
- List of Contents referenced
## Administrative Notes
- Marked "REGISTERED-ALL"
- Communications Section processed December, 1948
- Multiple addressees listed (Harbo, Conrad, Downing, Sizoo, Baughman)
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## People
- Lonnie Edward Noack (witness/complainant)
- R.C. Persons (associated party)
- Nathan Smith (associated party)
- Claude Leroy Wolfert (referenced)
- Inspector Howard Fletcher (recipient)
- SAC Willis (Houston office official)
## Organizations
- FBI (Los Angeles, Houston offices)
- Vasco Electric Manufacturing Company
- Smith Manufacturing Company
- Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company (toy manufacturers)
- Humboldt Oil Company
## Locations
- Mojave Desert, California
- Helendale, California
- Lone Pine, California
- South Pasadena, California
- Houston, Texas
- Los Angeles, California
- Arizona (unspecified)
## Observations
- Flying disk discovered at private airport in Mojave Desert area near Helendale
- Object approximately 6 feet in diameter with wings about 4 feet long
- Object about 1 foot thick with gyroscope-like mechanism in center
- Wings fitted with jet propulsion apparatus
- No identifying marks found
- Photographs taken by Noack and associated parties
- Identified as experimental kite/tow target constructed by Claude Leroy Wolfert
- Disk mounted on axle with bearings, tail surface on booms
- Cups on wing tips resembling rocket power containers
- No chemical or propelling material found in containers
## References
- Early December 1948 discovery date (exact date unknown)
- Parts retained by multiple parties
## Administrative
- RECORDED-51
- Marked "INDEXED-08"
- Routing to Director, SACS Cincinnati and Houston
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## Observations
- Full page of FBI typewritten correspondence
- Heavily faded text throughout
- Reverse-stamped classification headers visible (headers appear reversed)
- Contains substantial body text regarding investigation details
- Filing and processing marks present
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Contains detailed investigative correspondence
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## People
- Henry T. Rice (Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company)
- Claude Leroy Wolfert (inventor/designer)
## Observations
- Kite project initially intended for tow target for airplanes
- Rice decided only toy-sized kite suitable for commercial sale
- Wolfert created large model approximately 6 feet diameter, weighing 50 pounds
- Model tested in flight using DC-3 aircraft owned by Olsen and Rice
- Towed behind plane to observe flight characteristics
- Model crashed during testing
- Experiment abandoned after crash
- Wolfert remained at airport after Olsen and Rice departed
- Rice initially unaware Wolfert had left large model at airport
## Locations
## Administrative Notes
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## Observations
- Full page of FBI correspondence with typewritten text
- Text heavily faded but present throughout page
- RECEIVED stamp visible with processing date
- Multiple filing and routing marks
- Substantial investigative content
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Contains investigative documentation
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## Observations
- Contact to be made with Smith, Rice, and Wolfert to secure photographs and samples
- Bureau to be advised of developments
## Administrative Notes
- End of transmission (HOOD signature)
- Routing: "A IN ORDER PLS"
- Time processing: "A 7-45 PM OK FBI WASH DC WJR"
- Various FBI office acknowledgments: "HKBhJlMjVhBH", "SMR OK FBI HO UICF", "CI OK FBI CI JW", "CISC"
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- December 29, 1948
- Time: 7:47 PM
## Organizations
## Administrative Notes
- Received Teletype Unit stamped
- Archive processing date visible
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## People
- D.M. Ladd (recipient)
- H.B. Fletcher (from)
- Lonnie Noack (witness)
- Fuller Blackwell (Houston businessman)
- Lieutenant Robert Fleming (AAF, Ellington Field)
- Captain Bush (Army representative, Houston)
- SAC Willis (Houston office)
## Organizations
- FBI
- Humboldt Oil Company
- AAF/Army Air Forces
- Ellington Field
## Locations
- Houston, Texas
- Lone Pine, California
- Mojave Desert
- California
## Observations
- Flying disk discovery reported by SAC Willis Houston
- Object found by Noack during private plane flight from California to Houston
- Discovery location: approximately 30 miles east of Lone Pine, California
- Object lying on ground with strong bright reflection
- Plane landed to investigate
- Object described as 8 feet in diameter with 4-foot wings
- Object approximately 1 foot thick
- Center contains gyroscope-like mechanism
- Wings fitted with jet propulsion apparatus
- No identifying marks found
- Photographs taken of object
- Noack employed as machinist by Humboldt Oil Company
- Investigation coordinated with AAF at Ellington Field and Army representative
## Administrative Actions
- FBI instructed to furnish complete details by registered mail
- Request for presence of Bureau Agent during Army examination
- Arrangements to be made with California office for Agent presence
- Director to be advised of developments
## References
- SAC Willis reported to Lieutenant Robert Fleming and Captain Bush
- Stenographic statement being prepared with Fleming's stenographer
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## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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- December 28, 1948
- Time: 1:12 PM CST
## People
- Lonnie Edward Noack (complainant/witness)
- R.C. Persons (associated party)
- Nathan Smith and Mrs. Smith (associated parties)
- Robert Fleming (SA, OSI, Ellington Field)
## Organizations
- FBI Houston office
- Humble Oil Company
- Vasco Electrical Manufacturing Company
- Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company
- Eastman Kodak Company
## Locations
- Houston, Texas
- Chicago Street, Houston
- Los Palmas Street, Los Angeles
- Hollywood, California
- Lone Pine, California
- South Pasadena, California
- Pasadena, California
- Desert area near Helendale, California
## Dates of Events
- December 5, 1948: Noack departed Houston by commercial airline
- December 6, 1948: Noack contacted R.C. Persons regarding sighting
- December 7, 1948: Group located disk
- December 23, 1948: Films received by Noack via mail
## Observations
- Noack employed as machinist by Humble Oil Company, Houston
- Traveled to Hollywood, California on business
- Disk described by Persons as appearing in desert area
- Parties searched and located disk approximately 150 miles northeast of Pasadena
- Located about 20 miles northeast of Lone Pine
- Photographs taken with Speedgraphic cameras
- Noack film was 8 millimeters size, camera made by Revere
- Disk located in desert area near 900-acre private airfield owned by Persons
- Film developed by Eastman Kodak Company, Los Palmas Street address, Los Angeles
## Administrative
- End Page One of transmission
- FBI Houston to FBI Director
- Attention: Inspector Howard Fletcher
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## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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## Observations
- Film received December 23 shows disk approximately 7 feet in diameter
- Object approximately 2 feet thick in middle with feather-edged rim
- Abutting saucer in middle with 4-foot wings on both sides
- Wings resembling conventional airplane type
- No markings, no radio equipment visible
- Appeared to have landed at great speed
- Disk in comparatively good condition
- Both wing ends had attached small aluminum cylinder
- Cylinders apparently for jet propulsion
- One cylinder obtained by Noack as souvenir
- Currently in possession of Houston office
- Film similarly maintained by Houston office
## People
- SA Robert Fleming (OSI representative, Ellington Field, Texas)
- Mr. Fleming (OSI, notified District Commander)
- SAC R.B. Hood (LA office)
## Organizations
- OSI (Office of Special Investigations)
- Fifth OSI District, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio
## Administrative
- Film exhibition verified as authentic
- Fleming notified December 27
- District Commander at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio notified December 28
- SAC Hood notified telephonically
- Request for Bureau agents to assist or accompany OSI in observing and retrieving disk
- Action taken per Bureau instructions
- No facilities available Houston for reproducing movie film
- Still shots can be developed by commercial representatives
## End Page Two
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## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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- Commercial representatives available to develop still shots
- Action to be taken by OSI Dayton, Ohio not known at transmission time
- Possible OSI desire for film reproduction at Dayton facilities
- Bureau may request LA office obtain film and negatives from Persons and Smith
- Pictures taken by Persons with 4x5 Speedgraphic camera
- Persons' pictures readily available
- Noack film and jet propulsion wing tip material maintained Houston
- Awaiting suggested disposition and handling by Bureau or OSI
- Cincinnati office cognizant for potential Bureau-OSI liaison through Dayton
- AMSD letter follows to Bureau and interested offices
- Enclosing signed statement of Noack
## People
## Administrative
- End transmission marker: "END A IN O PLS"
- Routing confirmations from various FBI offices:
- - WA 225PM OK FBI WA LS
- - CI OK FBI CI JCL
- - LA OK FBI LA EDS
- - DISCM
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## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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- December 29, 1948
- Time: 9:07 PM
## People
- Lonnie Edward Noack (complainant)
- Henry T. Rice (Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company)
- Claude L. Wolford (inventor, address: 5454 Chesley Ave., LA)
- Nathan Smith (associated party)
## Organizations
- Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company (address: 3340 Emery Street, LA)
- WW Plastics Molding Company, LA
## Locations
- Los Angeles, California
- Helendale, California
- Nathan Smith's airfield near Helendale
## Observations
- Three parts of subject secured from Nathan Smith, LA
- Parts exhibited to Henry T. Rice, Olsen and Rice Manufacturing
- Rice positively identified parts as coming from model tow target
- Model constructed by Claude L. Wolford
- One part stamped "Wolford & WW Plastics Molding Co., LA"
- Tow target tested by Rice and Wolford using Rice's airplane
- Test conducted over Nathan Smith's airfield near Helendale, California
- Test was failure
- Target crashed and abandoned at airfield
- No further investigation being conducted
- Three items to be returned to Smith unless Bureau advises otherwise
## Administrative
- From: Los Angeles Office
- To: FBI Director
- Sent by SAC Hood
- Routing: Cincinnati and Houston offices advised
- Response: ACK PLS
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- December 29, 1948
- Time: 11:18 PM
## Organizations
## Administrative Notes
- Received Teletype Unit
- Document processing stamp visible
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## People
- H.B. Fletcher (from, Assistant Director)
- D.M. Ladd (recipient, Associate Director)
- SAC Hood (Los Angeles Office)
- SAC Willis (Houston Office)
- Nathan Smith
- R.C. Persons
- Henry T. Rice
- Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company representatives
## Organizations
- FBI Los Angeles Office
- FBI Houston Office
- Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company
## Locations
## Observations
- Reference to teletype from Houston Office dated December 28, 1948
- At 3:30 p.m., Fletcher called SAC Hood (LA Office) with instructions
- Instructions to locate Persons and Smith
- Instructions to secure photographs and film in their possession
- Instructions to locate flying disc and guard it
- At 5:00 p.m., SAC Hood reported back with updated information
- Identified object as tow kite with disc center and wings
- Made in Los Angeles by Olsen and Rice Manufacturing Company
- Kite tested and failed
- Kite abandoned
- Instructed SAC Willis to stop forwarding film and parts for laboratory examination
## Administrative
- RECORDED - 42
- INDEXED - 42
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## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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## People
- W.R. Presley (photographer)
- Mr. Rathman (Chief Investigator, Security Division, Atomic Energy Commission)
- Colonel C.D. Gasser (Resident Engineer, Air Material Command)
- SAC Knoxville (sender)
## Organizations
- FBI
- Atomic Energy Commission
- Air Material Command
- Oak Ridge Security Division
- Knoxville News-Sentinel
- United States Air Force Intelligence Service
## Locations
- Oak Ridge, Tennessee
- 218 Illinois Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee
- Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio
- Nuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft Research Center
## Observations
- Two photographs of "flying saucers" submitted
- Photographs taken at Oak Ridge, Tennessee in July 1947
- Presley observed vapor trail while photographing family
- Took photograph #1 of vapor trail
- Took photograph #2 showing ball of fire
- Photographs made available to Knoxville News-Sentinel reporters
- Newspaper story published but regarded as possible trick
- Multiple copies distributed among Presley's acquaintances
- Rathman recovered 24 copies and advised persons to maintain secrecy
- Colonel Gasser requested all copies returned
- Gasser concerned about matter receiving publicity
- Rathman studied negatives and found them authentic
- No evidence of trick photography
- Negative analysis showed actual exposure
## References
- Photostatic copy of newspaper clipping enclosed
- Photographs submitted for Bureau examination
## Classification Notes
- Internal Security matter
- Case reference: 65-11
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View PDF ↗## Observations
### Negative Authentication
- Rathman determined negatives appeared authentic
- If negative had been chemically "doped" would show emulsion removal
- Both vapor trail and fire corona dark on negative, indicating actual exposure
- No evidence of trick photography
- Rathman opinion: photographs without doubt authentic
### Colonel Gasser's Assessment
- No active investigation made per Bureau instructions
- Gasser interviewed prior to submitting photographs
- Gasser claimed knowledge not official but personal
- Flying saucers believed by Air Force intelligence to be man-made missiles
- Research being extensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio
- Information compiled by Air Force intelligence possibly shared with Bureau at Washington
### Technical Analysis and Theories
- Gasser theorized on nature of discs
- Flying discs theoretical possibility for supersonic flight advancement
- Scientists attempting development for many years
- U.S. has no known practical developments
- Only possible fuel: atomic energy
- Vapor trail and gaseous corona suggest radio-active field
- Corona has circular layers of intensity, not elongated
- Single line vapor trail of uniform intensity
- Slow dissipation rate different from normal aircraft
### Atmospheric Effects
- Corona appears to indicate radioactive field present
- Vapor trail represents atmospheric change along missile path
- Not consistent with presently known aircraft types
- Single uniform line different from multi-line trails of aircraft
### Russian Connection
- Gasser stated flying disc known since four years prior
- Russians experimenting with flying disc type
- Reports from CIA sources in Southern Europe and Southern Asia
- Russians experimenting with radical aircraft/guided missile
- Missile capability for great distances over sea
- Missiles can turn in flight and return to base
- U.S. experiments only at delivery stage
- Russians attempting nuclear energy development
- German scientists captured by Russians during occupation
- Fissionable materials supply known available to Russians
- Russian scientists capable in atomic energy field
### Missile Behavior Patterns
- Usually approach U.S. from northerly direction
- Return in northerly direction
- None known to crash, collide, or disintegrate over American soil
- Pattern: cruise around and return over North Pole
- No pieces recovered from any source
- Only telephoto photographs available
- Photographs in possession of Wright Field engineers
### Czechoslovak Incident
- Report of collision with Czechoslovakian transport
- Occurred prior to disc reports over U.S.
- Both missile and transport disintegrated without recovery
- Occurred over ocean
- No survivors from either craft
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### Altitude and Speed Control Capabilities
- Missiles maintained at certain altitude above ground contour
- Controlled by radio altimeter or radio control
- Missile path not exact parallel to ground contour due to high speed lag
- Reported at tremendously high altitudes
- Always traveling in straight line
- Gasser personally observed single vapor trail at unbelievably high altitudes
- Vapor trail extended horizon to horizon in perfectly straight line
- Trail unlike any vapor trail Gasser observed in Air Force experience
- Aircraft traveling at unbelievably tremendous speed
- When close to ground, travels at speeds allowing visual observation
- Suggests ability to control both speed and altitude
### Assessment of Threat
- Matter while still guesswork, source of great military concern
- Military efforts expended to determine nature of missiles
- Service attempting to decide adequate defense strategy
- Impetus to research nuclear energy propulsion for aircraft
- Interest in developing guided missiles
### Relationship to Oak Ridge
- No official connection between missiles and Oak Ridge proximity
- Believed to be coincidence
- Observed close to Oak Ridge merely as seen in forty-six of forty-eight states
- Multiple reports received during July
### Conclusion
- Information submitted for Bureau value
- No further action contemplated by Knoxville office
- Unless advised to contrary
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## People
- Fuller Blackwell (attorney, complainant contact)
- Lonnie Edward Noack (witness)
- Robert B. Fleming (Special Agent, O.S.I., Ellington Field, Texas)
- Captain Harold Bush (MID representative, Houston)
- Graham W. Kitchel (Special Agent)
## Organizations
- FBI Houston Office
- Humble Oil and Refining Company
- O.S.I. (Office of Special Investigations)
- MID (Military Intelligence Division)
## Locations
- Houston, Texas
- Kress Building, Houston
- Las Vegas, Nevada (initial report location)
- Ellington Field, Texas
## Dates of Events
- December 27, 1948: Initial contact by Blackwell
- December 27, 1948 evening: Film showing at Houston Office
- December 28, 1948: Noack appeared for statement preparation
## Observations
- Fuller Blackwell, attorney, telephonically contacted Houston Office on 12/27
- Called on Noack's suggestion
- Noack employed as machinist by Humble Oil and Refining Company
- Object approximately eight feet in diameter
- Had tail and wings
- Apparently equipped for jet propulsion
- Noack observed object near Las Vegas, Nevada
- Noack took movie film of disc
- Film in Noack's possession
## Film Details
- One 50-foot roll of 8 millimeter movie film
- Approximately fifteen feet relates exclusively to flying disc pictures
- Film surrendered at Houston Office on first appearance
## Coordination
- O.S.I. Ellington Field notified immediately
- Captain Harold Bush (MID representative) notified
- Film showing arranged at Houston Office for evening of 12/27
- Present: Bush, Fleming, Noack, Special Agent Graham W. Kitchel, writer
- Noack again appeared morning of 12/28 for statement preparation
## Administrative
- RECORDED - 43
- INDEXED - 43
- Case copies marked for destruction (27 NOV 1964)
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Continuation of 12/28/48 Houston memorandum regarding Lonnie Edward Noack and flying disc investigation.
## Content appears to continue discussion of film viewing and investigation procedures
## Administrative Notes
- Multiple archive stamps visible
- Processing marks indicating routing through various FBI offices
- Evidence of standard filing and classification procedures
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### Physical Details from Noack Interview
- Aluminum cylinder detached from one wing tip
- Noack brought cylinder back as souvenir
- Cylinder could function as rudder, rocket housing, or fuel tank attachment
- Noack initialed the cylinder
### Documentation and Distribution
- Two signed statement copies for Bureau
- Two copies for Los Angeles Office
- One informational copy for Cincinnati Division
- Original retained in Houston file
- One copy for FBI Laboratory
- Statement recorded by Mrs. Rose C. Rotsel, stenographer for O.S.I., Ellington Field
### Communications Timeline
- Inspector Howard Fletcher notified by phone at Bureau 9 A.M., 12/28/48
- Fletcher requested Bureau summary by teletype
- Interested offices notified similarly
- Signed statement submitted AMSD
- Fletcher instructed FBI not to be "sidetracked"
- FBI representatives to assume active investigation role
- Cooperation with O.S.I. representatives emphasized
### OSI Coordination
- Fleming's headquarters: District Commander, 5th O.S.I. District, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio
- Fleming sent telegram to District Commander morning of 12/28/48
- General summary of original complaint provided
- Fleming uncertain how 5th O.S.I. District would handle inquiry
- Options: Wright Field dispatch special plane to California or 18D O.S.I., San Bernardino, California
- Necessary for O.S.I. representatives to confer with R.C. Persons first
- Persons identified as initial discoverer of flying disc
- Persons would know present whereabouts of object
### Contact Information
- R.C. Persons business address: 4116 Avalon Boulevard, Los Angeles, California
- Telephone: Adams 5281
### Bureau Participation
- SAC R.B. Hood contacted telephonically approximately 11:30 A.M. CST 12/28/48
- Suggestion to maintain contact with Persons
### Physical Evidence Forwarding
- Film roll from Noack forwarded separately to Bureau
- Aluminum portion of fuselage also forwarded
- Attention: FBI Laboratory
- Air Mail Special Delivery
## Distribution
- Los Angeles (Encl.) AMSD
- Cincinnati (Encl.) AMSD
- FBI Laboratory (Encl.)
- Package notation
## Administrative
- GNW:NK
- Multiple enclosures (2)
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Envelope or folder cover for enclosure materials related to Noack flying disc case.
## Administrative Notes
- Marked "COPIES DESTROYED 270 NOV 18 1964"
- Case reference number visible: 62-8394-154
- Archive processing marks visible
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View PDF ↗## Dates
- December 28, 1948 (statement date)
- December 6, 1948 (dinner meeting)
- December 7, 1948 (object discovery and photography)
## People Interviewed
## Interviewing Representatives
- Special Agent Robert D. Fleming (O.S.I., Ellington Field, Texas)
- Christopher R. Bradley (O.S.I., Ellington Field, Texas)
- Special Agent Graham W. Kitchel (FBI Houston)
- Special Agent Galen N. Willis (FBI Houston)
## Event Timeline
### December 6, 1948
- Dinner at Old Virginia Inn, Los Angeles, California
- Attendees: R.C. Persons, Nathan Smith, C.A. Tock, Robert Broussard, unnamed person, Noack
- Meeting at Smith's electrical manufacturing company in Los Angeles
- Persons mentioned flying disc sighting
- Appointment made to visit disc location next morning by car
### December 7, 1948
- Delayed departure (2 P.M.) due to Persons detention at private air field
- Arrived at flying disc scene
- Took photographs
- Smith took approximately 10 feet of 16mm film
- Persons took five or six shots with Speed Graphic Camera
- First three shots potentially compromised (lens adapter closed too much)
- Noack held disc and rotated while Smith photographed
- Patched fence on Persons' property
- Left and returned for dinner at Eaton's Inn
- Returned home to Hollywood, California
## Background Information
- Noack left Houston, Texas 11:30 A.M. Sunday, December 5, 1948 by plane
- Flew to Hollywood, California on commercial flight for business
- Met Persons in Hollywood on Monday, December 6, 1948
- Persons stated he observed disc from air on way back from Las Vegas
## Location Description
- Airport 40 miles from Pasadena
- Trip proceeded north/northeast from Pasadena
- Passed Kaiser steel works and Virginia Dare Wine Orchard
- Drove through town called Matonia (phonetic)
- Followed road through mountains and small desert
- Estimated distance from Pasadena: approximately 150 miles
- Terrain: flat, desert, desolate
## Observations on Object
- On ground in semi-vertical position
- Approximately 45 degree angle
- Left wing imbedded in ground
- Appeared to have hit earth with considerable force
- Slid 300-400 feet
- Dented but generally intact
- Approximately 7 feet in diameter before crashing
- Roughly 2 feet thick in center
- Tapered to feather edge at rim
### Disc Structure
- Tunnel-shaped cups bradded on outside near rim
- Cups spaced approximately 20 inches apart on both sides
- Cup openings facing rear
- Natural aluminum exterior, no paint except 24 S.T. stamp
- Wings painted yellow-green camouflage color
### Wing Details
- Leading edge similar to airplane
- Taper to rear with feather edge
- Ribbed throughout with aluminum ribs for strength
- Similar rocket cartridge on each tip (fastened by two bolts)
- One wing in Noack's possession, turned over to authorities
- Cartridge knocked off in crash
### Control Surfaces
- Two strut bars attached approximately 20 inches from disc leading to rear
- Elevator attached
- Two struts protruded toward front with weight or tow system
- During crash, system anchored into ground and bent
- Elevator approximately 22 inches long, 5/8 inch thick
- Slight taper to rear, probably 10 inches wide
- Struts made of 5/8 inch steel tubing
### Weight Estimate
### Photography
- Approximately 15 feet of colored 8mm film
- Camera: Revere 8mm camera
- Exposure: 16 frames per second
- Diaphragm opening: f6.3
- Film: Cine-Kodak Kodachrome
### Construction Assessment
- Required proper equipment (spot welder, building equipment)
- No identifying marks indicating origin
- Appears probably American made based on aluminum workmanship
## Film Processing and Distribution
- Noack took second roll of film
- Took pictures along Hollywood Boulevard
- Finished roll over Chinese Theatre
- Took signature picture of George Hart
- Bought another roll of film
- Delivered to Eastman Kodak Company on Los Palmas Street, Los Angeles on Monday, December 13, 1948
- Films received December 23, 1948
- Films mailed to Humble Oil Building, Room 159, Houston, Texas
### Film Viewing
- Showed film December 23, 1948 at 1:30 P.M. in Humble Oil projection room to:
- - D.W. Blair
- - J. Hattaway
- - D.A. Peterson
- - James S. Oliver
- - William Reed, Jr.
- - A.E. Meleton
- - Wayne Crawford
- - D.A. Battle
- - Two other men (names not recalled)
- - All worked in instrument shop at Humble Oil
- Also showed film to brother-in-law E. Kulak, Pasadena, Texas
### Press Contact
- Christmas Day: Spoke with friends and young boy interested in photography
- Young boy worked at Southern Pacific Railroad
- Noack did not show pictures but explained disc
- Believes this boy was person who contacted newspaper
## Newspaper Contact
- Frank Reed of "Houston Post" called around 10:30 A.M.
- Asked about disc
- Noack refused information initially
- Reed requested story but Noack asked him to wait
- Noack contacted lawyer Blackwood to ask about FBI contacts
- Blackwood stated FBI personnel no longer stationed in Houston
- Noack then contacted FBI and turned over material
## Location Recovery
- Noack believes he could return to object location
- Confident Persons and Smith could also return
## Contact Information
- Nathan Smith's business: Nathan Smith Electrical Company, 105 South Pasadena Avenue, South Pasadena, California
- R.C. Persons: President of Vasco Electrical Manufacturing Company, 4116 Avalon Boulevard, Los Angeles, California
## Statement Conclusion
- Made voluntarily for proper authorities
- Made to best of Noack's knowledge and belief
## Signature
## Witnesses
- Representatives O.S.I., Ellington Field, Texas
- FBI, Houston, Texas
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- Case reference: 62-8394-154
- Marked as "ENCLOSURE TO THE BUREAU"
- RE: FLYING DISC; LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, Complainant
- Archive processing visible
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View PDF ↗Typed FBI interview document containing detailed first-person account of a disc or "flying wing" sighting and retrieval.
## Locations
- Pasadena, California
- South Pasadena
- Matonia (phonetic spelling noted by witness)
- Desert location approximately 150 miles north/northeast of Pasadena
- Kaiser steel works area
- Virginia Dare Wine Orchard
- Race track area
## Dates
## People
- Nathan Smith (mentioned as car owner)
- Mr. Person (property owner with private airport)
- Witness (5'7" tall, observer of the disc)
## Observations
- Object described as disc or flying wing in semi-vertical position at approximately 45-degree angle
- Left wing embedded in ground after crash
- Object hit earth with considerable force, slid 300-400 feet
- Overall dented but generally intact
- Witness estimated object roughly 7 feet in diameter before crashing
- Slightly higher than witness's height (5'7") when in upright position
- Wings on each side: approximately 4 feet by 20 inches, 3 inches thick
- Axle protruded through disc into wings
- Mounted on ball bearings which disc rotated upon
- Witness photographed object with Revere 8mm camera
- Terrain described as flat, desert, and desolate
- Distance from crash site to Person's private property: just outside boundary, to the east
- Person's property: approximately 900 acres
## Assessments
- Object appeared to have been launched from Person's private airport (unconfirmed speculation)
- Person usually flew at altitude of 8,000 feet
- Terrain showed evidence of severe impact and skidding
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View PDF ↗Enclosure cover sheet to FBI Bureau regarding flying disc complaint from Lonnie Edward Noack.
## Case Reference
- RE: Flying Disc; Lonnie Edward Noack, Complainant
- File reference number visible: 62-8394.154
## Content
Title page/enclosure sheet introducing documentation related to a flying disc complaint investigation. The sheet references Lonnie Edward Noack as the complainant in the matter being enclosed to the FBI Bureau.
## Document Type
Transmittal/cover sheet for case file enclosures
## Status Note
This page appears to be a routing/organization sheet for case materials within the FBI filing system, providing the complainant name and general subject matter classification.
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View PDF ↗Official FBI memo from SAC Houston to FBI Director regarding disposition of materials (film and parts) related to a supposed flying disc investigation. Includes routing stamps, file reference numbers, and disposition instructions.
## Locations
- Houston (office that sent memo)
- Los Angeles (receiving office)
## Dates
- January 25, 1949 (memo date)
- December 29, 1948 (Los Angeles teletype date)
- December 28, 1948 (Houston teletype date)
## People
## Organizations
- FBI - Director
- FBI - SAC Houston
- FBI - SAC Los Angeles
- Laboratory (FBI laboratory facility)
## Observations
- 8mm movie film taken by Mr. Lonnie Noack
- Several parts of supposed flying disc submitted for examination
- Material originally sent to FBI Laboratory for examination
- Prior identification determined object was tow target and toy kite
- No examination conducted at Houston laboratory due to prior identification
## References
- Los Angeles teletype dated 12/29/1948
- Houston teletype dated 12/28/1948
- Film identification: tow target and later toy kite
- Registered mail reference: AMS 3694
## Redactions
## Filing
- Indexed: "51 JAN 31 1949"
- File code: EX-59
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View PDF ↗Office Memorandum from SAC, San Antonio to FBI Director regarding Protection of Vital Installations and flying disc phenomenon, including discussion of "Green fireball phenomena" and Project Grudge.
## Date
March 22, 1949
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- G-2 (Army Intelligence, 4th Army)
- ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence)
- OSI (Office of Special Investigation)
- Air Materiel Command, T-2
- University of New Mexico
## People
## Locations
- Fourth Army Area
- Los Alamos, New Mexico
- Starvation Peak
## Subject Matter
Flying discs investigation and interdepartmental coordination
## Content Summary
The memorandum references previous correspondence (San Antonio letter to Director, January 31, 1949) discussing "Unidentified Aircraft" or "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena" (also called "flying discs," "flying saucers," and "balls of fire") in the Fourth Army Area. It notes:
- This matter is classified as "secret" by Army and Air Force Intelligence Officers
- G-2, 4th Army has now termed the matter "Unconventional Aircraft"
- Investigations are termed "Project Grudge"
- On February 16, 1949, a conference was held at Los Alamos, New Mexico to discuss the "Green fire ball phenomena" which began December 5, 1948
- The phenomenon is classified "secret" with investigation now primary responsibility of U.S. Air Force, Air Materiel Command, T-2
## Observations - "Starvation Peak Incident" (Dr. Lincoln La Paz)
Dr. La Paz discussed his personal sighting characterized by:
1. Initial bright light with no period of intensity increase; constant intensity throughout duration
2. Yellow green color (approximately 5200 Angstroms)
3. Essentially horizontal path
4. Trajectory traversed at constant angular velocity
5. Duration approximately two seconds
6. No accompanying noise
## Assessment
Dr. La Paz's characteristics suggested the phenomenon could not be classified as a normal meteorite fall.
## File Reference
- Bureau File: 65-58300
- CC: El Paso (100-4562), Dallas, Houston, Little Rock, Oklahoma City
## Routing
Marked "RECORDED -43" with distribution markings
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## Notes
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- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Office Memorandum from FBI Director to Legal Attaché, Mexico City regarding flying discs and Air Force materials.
## Date
May 4, 1949
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- U.S. Department of State
- U.S. Air Force
## Recipient
Legal Attaché, Mexico City, D.F.
## Sender
Director, FBI
## Subject
Flying Discs
## Content Summary
The Director's response to the Legal Attaché's letter of April 5, 1949 which requested a copy of an Air Force memorandum mentioned in SAC Letter #38 (Series 1949, dated March 25, 1949).
In response, the Director encloses a pamphlet titled "Unconventional Aircraft" issued by the Department of the Air Force under date of February 15, 1949, to which reference was made in the aforementioned SAC Letter.
## Document Enclosed
- Title: "Unconventional Aircraft"
- Issuing agency: Department of the Air Force
- Date of issue: February 15, 1949
## Administrative Notations
- Recorded: 34
- Stamp: "AIR POUCH"
- Stamp: "63 MAY 11 1949"
- File reference: 62-6894.145
- Distribution: Mr. Tolson, Mr. Glavi[n], Mr. Ladd, Mr. Nichols, Mr. Rosen, Mr. Tracy, Mr. Egan, Mr. Gurnea, Mr. Harbo (with notations of receipt)
- CC: Foreign Service Desk (detached)
- Special messenger notation
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
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View PDF ↗Document page with FBI correspondence, routing stamps, and processing marks. Text content present on page.
## Observations
- Page contains FBI-related documentation
- Routing and processing stamps visible
- Typewritten or handwritten correspondence
## Notes
- Part of FBI case file 62-HQ-83894, Section 4
- Requires detailed manual review for precise content extraction
Page 141
View PDF ↗## Classification
Not marked on visible portion
## Date
April 10, 1949
## People
- C. Atkins (author, Los Angeles Parks Department)
- Walter Winchell (New York broadcaster, referenced)
- De Jarnett (Griffith Park employee, observer)
- Two unnamed Griffith Park employees (observers)
## Organizations
- City of Los Angeles Department of Recreation and Park
- Mayor Fletcher Bowron's office
## Locations
- Hollywood, California (letter origin)
- Griffith Park (largest park in nation per letter, sighting location)
- New York City (Winchell's location)
## Observations
- Friday of last week (relative to April 10): three Parks Department employees working in Griffith Park observed a disc-like object sailing through sky
- One employee (De Jarnett) noticed object first, took good look to distinguish it from aircraft
- Two other men working half mile away saw same object
- Men checked with each other and arrived at same conclusion about object being a disc
- All three confirmed the sighting
- Men ran to telephone to report incident
## Assessments
- Author C. Atkins satisfied that "something of the Disc type was in the air"
- Author inclined to believe Walter Winchell's statements and call liars anyone who denies flying disc reality
## References
## Quotes
"It was a Disc and they ran to a telephone to report the incident"
"I am satisfied you are very much right in your statements"
## Redactions
Partial redaction of text near closing ("RECORDED" stamp visible)
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## Page Description
Heavily redacted/faded government document page with official classification markings
Page 143
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Internal security (marked)
## Date
April 26, 1949
## Organizations
- SAC San Antonio
- FBI Director
- United States Air Materiel Command
## References
- Letter dated April 4, 1949 about "Protection of Vital Installations"
- SAC Letter No. 38 dated March 25, 1949, captioned "Flying Disks"
- Walter Winchell broadcast April 3, 1949
## Observations/Directives
- Bureau instructs SAC to report future flying disk information under "Protection of Vital Installations" caption
- SAC Letter No. 38 data obtained in confidence from colonel in US Air Materiel Command
- That colonel obtained information from persons actively engaged in flying disk investigation
## Assessments
## Administrative
- Mailed April 27, 1949 P.M.
- Distribution routing visible (Tolson, Clegg, Gladin, Ladd, Nichols, McGuire, Egan, Gurnea, Harbo, Mohr, Penpington, Quinn, Tele. Room, Neale, Gandy)
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## Page Description
Faded government correspondence with redactions and administrative stamps
Page 145
View PDF ↗## Classification
Not marked
## Date
April 4, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- TO: Director, FBI
- FROM: SAC, San Antonio
- SUBJECT: Protection of Vital Installations (Bureau file 65-48300)
## People
- 1st Lt. Frederick W. Davis (observer, Company C, 12th Armored Infantry Battalion, Camp Hood)
- Walter Winchell (broadcaster)
- G-2 personnel (Army Intelligence)
## Organizations
- Office of Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2, 4th Army
- FBI
- 12th Armored Infantry Battalion
- Alert force "Abel" (Camp Hood)
- Killeen Base (adjacent to Camp Hood, Texas)
## Locations
- Camp Hood, Texas
- Killeen Base, Texas
- Los Alamos, N.M.
- Sandia Base, N.M.
- El Paso Division
- San Antonio Division
## Dates of Observations
- March 31, 1949, 11:50 P.M. (primary sighting)
- March 6, 7, 8, 17, 1949 (other lights observed)
## Observations
- March 31: Lighted object about size of basketball, reddish white in color, followed by fire trail observed southwest of Killeen Base
- Observed by 1st Lt. Frederick W. Davis, in charge of platoon
- Object at estimated altitude 6,000 feet, traveling parallel to ground
- Passed directly over observer at rapid rate of speed
- In view 10-15 seconds, then suddenly disappeared high in sky
- No sound or odor detected
- Night was clear, visibility good
- Object passed almost directly over air strip at Killeen Base
- Other lights of unknown origin observed March 6, 7, 8, 17, 1949 by military personnel stationed approximately 1000 yards east of fences surrounding Killeen Base
## Incidents
- When Lt. Davis attempted to advise headquarters by telephone immediately after sighting, heard static or electrical interference on line (possible radio interference)
- March 31 object reported as different nature from earlier lights
## References
- Walter Winchell broadcast April 3, 1949, stated "flying discs" seen in country definitely emanated from Russia
- G-2, 4th Army contacted FBI office April 4, 1949, inquiring whether FBI had information substantiating or discrediting Winchell statements
## Administrative
- Air Mail, Special Delivery marked
- Recorded -105, Indexed -105, Exit marking visible
- File number 100-7545
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April 4, 1949 (letter continuation from page 145)
## Locations
- Los Alamos, N.M.
- Sandia Base, N.M.
- El Paso Division
- Camp Hood area
- San Antonio Division
## References
- Walter Winchell broadcast statement about flying discs emanating from Russia
- Bureau's potential ability to clarify matter for military authorities
## Assessments
- Concern expressed by 4th Army military authorities regarding vital installation protection
- Military authorities interested in source of Winchell's information
- Bureau suggested to arrange interview with Winchell
- Bureau asked to supply information to clarify matter
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## Page Description
Letter to Director SA-100-7545 dated April 4, 1949 regarding Flying Discs and interest of 4th Army military authorities protecting vital installations at Los Alamos, Sandia Base, El Paso Division, Camp Hood area. References Mr. Winchell interview concerning source of "Flying discs" information emanating from Russia. Requests Bureau assistance in clarifying the matter
Page 148
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Not marked
## Date
May 10, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- TO: Director of Special Investigations (I.G.), Department of the Air Force, The Pentagon, Washington 25, D.C.
- FROM: John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
- SUBJECT: Information Concerning Flying Saucers, Mrs. Frank Gardner - Informant
## People
- Mrs. Frank Gardner (correspondent/informant)
- John Edgar Hoover (FBI Director)
## Content
- Enclosed is photostatic copy of letter dated April 29, 1949, received by Bureau from Mrs. Frank Gardner concerning flying saucers
- Correspondent has been advised that copy of her letter has been forwarded to United States Air Force
- Letter being forwarded to Air Force for any action deemed advisable
## Administrative
- Recorded -135, Indexed -135
- Sent by Special Messenger
- Mailed May 11, 1949
- Distribution routing: Tolson, Clegg, Gladin, Rosen, Tracy, Egan, Gurnea, Pennington, Quinn Tele, Neale, Gandy
- PER:jmf initials visible
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## Page Description
Handwritten letter from Hotel Lawrence, Walnut Ridge, Arkansas regarding flying saucers
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View PDF ↗Newspaper clipping from United Press about flying saucers and the death of pilot Thomas F. Mantell.
## Publication
Dayton Journal-Herald
## Date
April 27, 1949 (publication date)
## Headline
"New Data, Ideas About Flying Saucers and Death of Pilot Who Chased One"
## People
- Captain Thomas F. Mantell, fighter pilot (primary subject - deceased)
- Robert Ripley (referenced in article context)
## Locations
- Dayton, Ohio
- Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
- Fort Knox, Kentucky
## Incidents Referenced
### Fort Knox Incident (January 7, 1948)
- Date: January 7, 1948
- Location: Fort Knox, Kentucky
- Event: Flying saucer sighting
- Response: Four fighter planes dispatched to intercept
- Captain Mantell's involvement: Able to get closest to the object
- Mantell's last reported radio transmission: "I'm closing in to take a good look. It looks metallic and of tremendous size. It's going up now as fast as I am. That's 360 miles an hour. I'm going up after it. At 20,000 feet, if I'm no closer, I'll abandon chase."
- Outcome: Mantell's plane crashed moments later; Mantell was killed
## Content Summary
The article states that Captain Mantell "was the only airman who ever got near a flying saucer" before crashing. The article cites investigation at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base documenting the incident.
## Key Findings Reported
- Air Force investigation proved flying saucers "are not a joke"
- Neither "are they a cause for alarm to the population"
- Wright-Patterson records list 240 domestic and 30 foreign accounts of flying discs investigated
- Of these accounts: ~30% appear to be weather balloons and similar conventional objects
- ~30% more are "perhaps explainable conventionally"
- ~40% remain unexplained
- Air Force stated no evidence that discs are "guided missiles fired from some other country"
- Air Force "evaluation teams" stated position: "We can't prove or disprove the existence of some of the remaining unidentified objects as real aircraft of unconventional design"
- Assessment: "The possibility that the saucers" [text appears to continue]
## File Reference
## Status
Newspaper article document clipping attached to FBI case file
Page 151
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1949
## Organizations
## Recipients
Director, Mr. Ladd, Mr. Clegg, Mr. Gladin, Mr. Harbo, Mr. Nichols, Mr. Rosen, Mr. Tracy, Mr. Fletcher, Mr. Mohr, Mr. Carlson, Mr. Nease, Miss Gandy, Personnel Files Section, Records Section, Mrs. Skillman
## Notes
- "See Me For Appropriate Action"
- "Send File Note and Return"
- Signed: Clyde Tolson
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Not marked
## Date
May 13, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- TO: Director, FBI
- FROM: SAC, Los Angeles
- SUBJECT: "Flying Disk" Report - Information Concerning
## People
- Mel Hodell (reporter, Sun-Star newspaper, Merced, California)
- Marlin W. Johnson (Special Agent, FBI)
- Lt. Col. Stanley Jacobs (Intelligence Officer, Castle Air Force Base, Merced)
- William H. Parrott (observer, 12-A Langdon Villa, Merced; Air Corps Reserve)
- George Bremer (Detachment Commander, Office of Special Investigations, Castle AFB)
- Stanley F. Jacobs (Lt. Col., USAF, Adjutant/Intelligence Officer)
## Organizations
- Sun-Star newspaper (Merced, California)
- Castle Air Force Base, Merced, California
- Air Material Command, Wright-Patterson AFB, Wright Field, Ohio
- Office of Special Investigations
## Locations
- Merced, California (primary location)
- Approximately 1 mile west of town of Merced (observer's home location)
- Castle Air Force Base (7 miles north of observer's home)
- Wright-Patterson AFB, Wright Field, Ohio
## Dates of Observation
## Observations from William H. Parrott statement
- Heard clicking noise of considerable intensity while stepping from home
- Clicking source identified in sky approximately 40 degrees from surface in easterly direction
- Sky condition: 2000 feet broken clouds with 12 miles visibility
- Surface winds reported as north 9 M.P.H. at Castle AFB weather station
- No appreciable surface wind at observer's location
- After approximately 10 seconds of auditory observation, object observed blanking out stars
- Flight path west or northwesterly direction
- Only one object apparent
- Shape: solid mass
- Size: estimated 4-5 feet diameter
- Estimated altitude: considerably less than 1000 feet
- Color: dull surfaced, light colored metal (shown by reflection of ground lights on two occasions only)
- Ground lights visible: row of street lights behind observer, half block away
- Object underside curved in shape (based on light reflection pattern)
- Initial movement: very slowly westerly or northwesterly
- Duration in visual range: 35 seconds after 10 seconds of audio detection
- Object maneuvered through 90-degree left turn
- Clicking sound continuous throughout turn, became louder on return
- New heading on return: south or southwest
- Clicking sound became louder but observer unable to see object during return
- Clicking stopped when at greatest intensity, appeared directly overhead
- Observer unable to see object after sound stopped
- Clicking sound characteristics: same pitch and speed throughout, intensity varied, no whistle or roar, comparable to improperly meshed home mixer beaters
- No lights or flame observed except previous reflections
- No exhaust trail distinguishable
- Observer's dog reacted: directed attention toward object without spoken command, followed object's course throughout
## Observer Qualifications
- Major, USAF Reserve (Active)
- Pilot rating attained August 1941
- Approximately 2200 hours flying time
- Considerable night flying experience during WW2 active duty period
## Assessment
## Administrative
- Recorded -110
- Indexed -110
- File number: 100-2442
- Copies destroyed
- Additional note: May 25, 1949 stamp
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## Page Description
Handwritten letter to Edgar J. Hoover discussing flying saucers and alleged secret aircraft
Page 154
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LA 100-2442
## Continuation of William H. Parrott Statement
- Object surface: dull surfaced, light colored metal
- Only ground lights of intensity: row of street lights behind observer (half block away)
- Observation supported curvature of object's underside
- Initial sighting movement: very slow westerly or northwesterly direction
- Observer estimated 35 seconds visual range after 10 seconds prior audio detection
- Object maneuvered through 90-degree left turn
- Clicking sound continuous throughout turn, became louder on return
- Return heading: south or southwest
- Clicking sound increased in volume but observer unable to see object during return phase
- Clicking sound stopped at greatest intensity point, appeared to originate directly overhead
- Observer unable to see object after sound ceased
- Clicking sound characteristics: retained same pitch and speed throughout entire course, intensity varied, no whistle or roar, only clicking noise comparable to improperly meshed home mixer beaters
- No lights or flame observed except previous reflections twice
- No exhaust trail distinguishable
- Observer's dog reaction: Dog was with observer, directed attention to object's flight direction throughout course without spoken command, had been romping but stopped and focused attention when sound began, possibility of sounds on wave lengths discernable only to dog
## Observer Details (William H. Parrott)
- Member of Active USAF Reserve
- Rank: Major
- Pilot rating attained: August 1941
- Flying time: approximately 2200 hours
- WW2 active duty: considerable night flying experience in connection with military assignment
## Investigation Status
- Intelligence Officer statement: "An attempt to locate other witnesses in the area or through the local newspaper proved unsuccessful"
- George Bremer (OSI Detachment Commander) planning to clear with headquarters and probably conduct investigation
## Summary
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Not marked
## Date
May 26, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- TO: Mr. Fletcher
- FROM: V. P. Kean
- SUBJECT: Flying Discs
## People
- Walter Winchell (broadcaster)
- Robert Ripley (telegram sender)
- Special Agent Reynolds (FBI)
- Colonel William E. Carpenter (OSI-USAF)
- Special Agent Sanders (FBI)
## Organizations
- Army Intelligence Division
- U.S. Air Force
- Wright Field authorities
## Background
- Walter Winchell forwarded Western Union telegram from Robert Ripley to Director
- Ripley claimed he had the only authentic Japanese flying saucer ever recovered in United States
- Winchell's note on telegram: "To J. Edgar Hoover - True?"
## Investigation Details
- Special Agent Reynolds discussed with Army Intelligence Division
- Army Intelligence: no information on Japanese flying saucer ever recovered in United States
- Discussion with Colonel William E. Carpenter, OSI-USAF (April 27, 1949)
- Carpenter stated he interested himself in flying saucers and related subjects
- Carpenter's Air Force sources (excellent): no authentic information available on flying saucer phenomenon
- Carpenter offered to check with Wright Field authorities regarding Japanese flying saucer recovery
## Findings
- Colonel Carpenter advised: no information available in any arm of Air Force on recovery of any flying saucers in United States
- Carpenter noted delay encountered in determining this fact
- Inquiries directed through trusted individuals rather than usual channels (to avoid "stock answer")
## Investigative Approach
- Details not discussed by Special Agents Reynolds or Sanders with Army or Air Force
- Army and Air Force unaware of Ripley telegram to Winchell
## Recommendation
## Administrative
- Recorded -91
- Indexed -91
- Distribution routing: Tolson, Fletcher, Kean, Gladin, Nichols, Rosen, Egan, Gurnea, Harbo, Pennington, Quinn Tam, Tele. Room, Nease, Holmur, Miss Gandy
- Dated June 1949 (received stamp)
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## Page Description
Government document page with faded text
Page 157
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April 19, 1949 (broadcast date referenced), filed from Miami Beach, Florida
## Sender
Robert Ripley (Ripley's Believe It or Not personality)
## Recipient
Walter Winchell, Roney Plaza Hotel, Miami Beach, Florida
## Content
- Claim: "Have the only authentic Japanese flying saucer ever recovered in this country"
- Reference to Winchell's interest in present day flying discs of the Russians
- Invitation to join Ripley on "Believe It or Not" television show next Tuesday April 19th, NBC Network, 9:30 to 10 PM
- Request for Winchell to give comments on flying disc and share "exclusive knowledge of this latest Russian menace"
- Sign-off: "Regards Believe It or Not -RIPLEY-"
## Administrative
- Standard Western Union telegram format
- CDU1016 reference number
- Time shown: 9:30 PM NBC broadcast slot
- Filed from NEW YORK NY location before transfer to Miami
Page 158
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April 28, 1949 (received by Atomic Energy Liaison Section)
May 26, 1949 (Received - Fletcher)
## Organizations
- Atomic Energy Liaison Section
- FBI, U.S. Department of Justice
## Routing
- Received by Atomic Energy Liaison Section on April 28, 1949, 2:05 PM
- Received by Fletcher on May 26, 1949
## Notes
Page contains administrative routing stamps and processing marks indicating document was forwarded to Atomic Energy Commission/Liaison Section for information purposes.
Page 159
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May 10, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- FROM: John Edgar Hoover, FBI Director
- TO: Mrs. Frank Gardner, 2310 W. Harvey, El Monte, California
## Content
- Acknowledgment of Gardner's letter dated April 29, 1949
- Expression of appreciation for her thoughtfulness in writing
- Statement that copy of letter being sent to United States Air Force based on contents
- Instructions for future communications: direct to Mr. R. B. Hood, Special Agent in Charge, Los Angeles Field Office, 900 Security Building, Los Angeles 13, California
## Previous Contact
- Correspondent previously communicated with Bureau on one previous occasion
- Previous communication enclosed clipping from Spanish language newspaper in Texas
- Previous topic: dissatisfaction with treatment of Latin Americans in Texas
- Cordial letter of acknowledgement sent for previous communication
- File reference: 100-33339
## Administrative
- Recorded -101
- Indexed -101
- Los Angeles office notification: "cc Los Angeles with copies of incoming"
- Mailed May 10, 1949 P.M.
- Distribution routing: Tolson, Clegg, Gladin, Ladd, Nichols, Rosen, Tracy, Egan, Gurnea, Harbo, Pennington, Quinn Tam, Tele. Room, Nease, Holmur, Miss Gandy
- FRW:jmf initials
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View PDF ↗Office Memorandum from V. P. Keay to Mr. Fletcher regarding flying discs, specifically addressing claims about a recovered Japanese flying saucer.
## Date
May 26, 1949
## Organizations
- FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation)
- Intelligence Division, U.S. Army
- Air Force
- Wright Field/Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
## People
- V. P. Keay (from/author)
- Mr. Fletcher (to/recipient)
- Walter Winchell (broadcaster, source of inquiry)
- Robert Ripley (source of claim)
- Special Agent Reynolds (investigator)
- Colonel William E. Carpenter, OSI-USAF (Air Force liaison)
- Special Agent Sanders (investigator)
## Subject
Flying Discs
## Background
Walter Winchell forwarded to the FBI Director a Western Union telegram he had received from Robert Ripley stating that Ripley had "the only authentic Japanese flying saucer ever recovered in this country." Winchell wrote on the telegram: "To J. Edgar Hoover - True?"
## Details of Investigation
### Army Intelligence Division
Special Agent Reynolds discussed the matter with the Intelligence Division of the Army. They advised they had no information concerning any Japanese flying saucer having been recovered in the United States.
### Air Force Inquiry
Special Agent Reynolds discussed the matter with Colonel William E. Carpenter, OSI-USAF:
- Date of discussion: April 27, 1949
- Carpenter advised he had interested himself in flying saucers and related subjects
- Carpenter stated that through his sources in the Air Force (described as "excellent"), there is no authentic information available concerning the phenomenon of flying saucers
- Carpenter agreed to check with authorities at Wright Field to determine if any information is available concerning recovery of a Japanese flying saucer
### Final Air Force Response
- No information available in any arm of the Air Force regarding flying saucers of any kind having been recovered in the United States
- Delay was encountered in determining this fact because inquiries were directed through individuals known to Carpenter and trusted by him, rather than through usual channels that might produce "a stock answer"
## Investigation Notes
- The details of this case were NOT discussed by Special Agents Reynolds or Sanders with the Army or Air Force
- Army and Air Force officials were not made aware of the telegram sent by Ripley to Winchell
## Recommendation
"The foregoing is for your information and any disposition being desirable."
## Administrative
- Recorded: 91
- Indexed: 91
- Distribution list includes: Mr. Tolson, Mr. Clegg, Mr. E.A. Tamm, Mr. Glavin, Mr. Ladd, Mr. Nichols, Mr. Rosen, Mr. Tracy, Mr. Egan, Mr. Gurnea, Mr. Harbo, Mr. Pennington, Mr. Quinn Tamm, Tele. Room, Mr. Nease, Miss Holmur, Miss Gandy
- Stamp: "01 JUNE 1949"
- Signature: [V.P. Keay]
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## Page Description
Government document page with administrative markings
Page 162
View PDF ↗## Classification
Not marked
## Date
May 23, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- TO: Mr. H. B. Fletcher
- FROM: F. J. Baumgartner (signature visible)
- SUBJECT: Kaye Lochrie - Miscellaneous
## People
- Miss Kaye Lochrie (4900 N. Harding Avenue, Chicago 25, Illinois)
- Roy Palmer (Managing Editor, Jeff Davis Publishing Company, Chicago)
## Organizations
- Jeff Davis Publishing Company (Chicago)
- U.S. Army, Women's Army Corps (WACs)
## Locations
- Chicago, Illinois (Lochrie residence and work location)
- Washington, D.C. (destination mentioned)
- Ambassador Hotel (Washington, Lochrie's stated lodging)
## Dates
- May 20, 1949 (Lochrie's office visit)
- 1945 (WAC discharge year)
## Content
- Miss Lochrie referred from Director's Office on May 20, 1949
- Lochrie stated she would be in Washington for a few days, staying at Ambassador Hotel
- Lochrie reported Roy Palmer (Managing Editor, Jeff Davis Publishing Company in Chicago) had information regarding flying discs
- Palmer's theory: when people die, their souls enter an invisible space on earth; good and bad people in this "soul world" have become involved in a war
- Palmer's hypothesis: flying discs are explosives used in warfare between good and bad souls
- Lochrie's actual purpose: get her own name cleared from FBI investigation
- Lochrie claimed she was under suspicion of espionage activities
- She was advised FBI files are confidential per Attorney General
- Lochrie accepted this explanation
- Lochrie stated she served in WACs as private, received honorable discharge in 1945
- Currently working as model in Chicago
- Interviewer assessment: "She impressed me as being somewhat mentally unbalanced"
## Investigation Status
## Administrative
- Recorded -62
- Indexed -62
- Received 52 JUN 7 1949
- Distribution: Tolson, Clegg, Gladin, Rosen, Tracy, Egan, Gurnea, Harbo, Pennington, Quinn Tam, Tele. Room, Miss Holmes, Miss Gandy
- FJB:TD initials
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## Page Description
Government document with redactions
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View PDF ↗## Classification
Not marked
## Date
June 2, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- TO: Director, FBI
- FROM: SAC, New Orleans
- SUBJECT: Flying Discs (Re: SAC Letter 38, dated March 25, 1949)
## Organizations
- Office of Naval Intelligence, New Orleans, Louisiana
- U.S. Navy
- U.S. Army Intelligence
## Locations
- New Orleans, Louisiana
- City of New Orleans
## Dates of Sightings
- May 18, 1949
- May 19, 1949
- May 23, 1949
## Observations (Three Flying Disc Sightings)
- Single discs in straight flight
- General direction: North
- Time: late afternoon
- Size: about size of observation plane
- Shape: saucer
- Two witnesses reported object traveling end over end
- Weather conditions: good
- Sightings made outdoors by observers not wearing glasses
## Navy Assessment
- Navy stated possible these objects were weather balloons
- Weather balloons used from only one airport
- Released over an hour before sighting times
- Would generally be out of sight in few minutes
## Investigation Status
- All three instances investigated by Army Intelligence
- Information provided through Office of Naval Intelligence
## Administrative
- Recorded -6
- File reference visible
- PW/mmd initials
- Received JUN 6 stamp
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## Page Description
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May 23, 1949
## Organization
- Office of Director, FBI
- Federal Bureau of Investigation
- United States Department of Justice
## Content
- Cover note forwarding document to FBI Director from Walter Winchell
- Handwritten notation reads: "To Hoover! Ha!"
- Document attached
## Administrative
- Distribution routing: Tolson, Clegg, Gladin, Ladd, Nichols, Rosen, Tracy, Egan, Gurnea, Harbo, Jones, Mohr, Pennington, Tele. Room, Nease, Holmes, Gandy
- Received stamp: JUN 1 1949
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## Page Description
Government document page
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May 15, 1949
## Sender/Recipient
- FROM: Warren E. Franscioni
- TO: Walter Winchell, New York, New York
- FROM ADDRESS: 1767 Conejo Drive, San Luis Obispo, California
## Origin
San Luis Obispo, California
## Content
- Sender enclosing "FLYIN' SAUCER" sample item under separate cover
- Instructs Winchell to: "take out FLYIN' SAUCER, carefully read the instructions, and fly it"
- Sender states if Winchell does only this, author will have "accomplished a portion of my expectations"
- Author has listened to Winchell's Sunday evening broadcasts and comments concerning flying saucers
- Author visualized "what the right type of publicity would do for my interests"
- Author acknowledges seeking publicity for product through Winchell
- Winchell's comment concerning "Gyroscopic Theories" prompted author's action
- Mentions merchandising phases in attached articles
- Notes one Boy Scout troop in Los Angeles purchasing and enthusiastically including product as major portion of recreation program
- Author asserts "FLYIN' SAUCER" is "worthy of every effort we are able to summons in making it 2 great American pastime of Yo-Yo proportions"
- Author seeks Winchell's consideration "from a newsworthy standpoint"
## Product
- "FLYIN' SAUCER" - appears to be a toy/novelty item
- Gyroscopic design implied
## Administrative
- Recorded -58
- Indexed -58
- Received GO JUN 15 1949
- File reference: 62-83894-177
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Physical envelope/container page with printed return address label
## Content
- Yellow envelope with protective seal
- Internal label reads: "ENCLOSURE - Coded Personnel 023"
- Contains actual "Flyin' Saucer" toy item/sample
## Note
This page represents the physical envelope that contained the sample "Flyin' Saucer" toy that Warren Franscioni sent to Walter Winchell with his letter on page 168.
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## Note
This is the back of the envelope containing the "Flyin' Saucer" toy sample, with filing reference only.
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"The Amazing FLYIN'-SAUCER" - A gyroscopic airfoil toy
## Description
- Performs in amazing way as skill develops
- Novel way to play catch
- Adaptable to almost any game
- Precisely engineered and aerodynamically correct
- Made tough to resist rough handling
## Flight Instructions
- Launch straight ahead with snap of wrist making it spin as fast as possible
- "Don't throw too hard" - spinning gives lift
- Begin by flying about 10 feet
- When windy, throw across the wind
- Quickly learn how to bank left or right
## Manufacturer
PIPCO PRODUCT, San Luis Obispo, California
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- Similar to airplanes
- Launched identically to sailing hat onto hook - by spinning and forward motion
- Level position launch = straight line flight
- Banked/tilted launch = curve in direction of tilt
- Spinning creates gyroscopic action controlling attitude
## Instructions for Best Results
- Spinning most important and most difficult to master
- Smooth, fast spinning delivery required
- Don't hold saucer too tight
- Analyze mistakes and correct by tilting/banking
- Correction applied as saucer leaves hand
## Game Variations
- "Sail 'em back and forth"
- Play catch
- "Make 'em turn" - bank saucer way it will turn
- "Make 'em come back" - sail into breeze at sharp angle for return
- "Make 'em skip" - right-handers launch so left side strikes hard surface
## "The Game of Heckle"
- Four players - two per team
- Object: fly saucer around hecklers into partner's circle
- All circles 6 feet diameter
- Center space varies with ability
- Rules govern player positions and scoring
- First team to 25 points wins
## Manufacturer
PIPCO PRODUCT, San Luis Obispo, California
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"Flying Saucers Come from Southern California"
## Source
Reprinted from PACIFIC PLASTICS, August 1948
## Origins of Product
- Started many years ago - long before recent flying saucer flurry
- Began with boy named Freddie playing with mother's pie tins
- Freddie threw pie tins with right wrist twist causing spin and turns
- Freddie grew up into Fred Morrison
- Morrison applied aerodynamics knowledge to develop controllable disc
## Technical Development
- Evolved metal model that sailed through air
- Curved disc: 9 inches diameter, 2 inches deep
- Radiating arc-shaped fins and heavy outside rim
- Snap of wrist creates centrifugal motion
- Radial fins create vacuum on top
- Heavy rim provides stability from beneath
- Metal model sailed beautifully but damaged obstacles (windows, hedges)
## Material Selection
- Lightweight, flexible plastics chosen as alternative
- Morrison brought metal model to Southern California Plastic Co., Glendale, California
- Stanley J. Gray and Edward L. Kennedy (president and secretary) demonstrated on lawn
- Convinced great fun possible for young and old
## Manufacturing
- Plastics model carved from solid block
- Mold made in Southern California shop
- Engraving by United Engravers, Los Angeles
- Searched thermoplastic molding compounds for proper material
- Cellulose acetate provided best combination of flexibility, impact strength, stability
- Acetate discs will not break windows, shatter from height, scar automobiles, or injure players
## Marketing Challenge
- Product must be demonstrated to be sold
- Everyone seeing in action is enthusiastic
- Lying on counter, likely to be passed by
- Sales staff developing demonstrations and promotional campaigns
- Carefully-controlled distribution with on-the-spot demonstrations
- National markets not tackled until promotional kinks unraveled
## Image
Shows young man holding cellulose acetate Flyin' Saucer with radial fins visible
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"'Sky Devil-Ship' Scares Pilots; Air Chief Wishes He Had One"
## Source
Atlanta Journal, Sunday, 7/25/48
By William Key
## Incident
- Two Atlanta Eastern Air Line pilots saw mysterious object Saturday morning near Montgomery
- Pilots: Captain C. S. Chiles (Atlanta) and Co-Pilot J. B. Whitted (Hapeville)
- Route: Houston-Atlanta, Boston run
## Object Description
- Gigantic plane without wings
- Black against night sky
- Streaking through heavens at 5,000 feet altitude
- Fiery comet's tail 25-50 feet in length
- 100-foot fuselage about four times circumference of B-29
- Two rows of brilliantly lighted square windows
- "Flying Dutchman of the Skies"
- No living soul seen aboard
## Witness Testimony
- 20 passengers aboard aircraft
- C. L. McKelvie of Columbus, Ohio was awake and saw object
- McKelvie told reporters he saw "no form of ship"
- Saw "continuous light speed past" his window
- Claimed not well-versed in aeronautics, wasn't looking for "Buck Rogers space ship"
## Official Responses
- Gen. George C. Kenney, chief of Strategic Air Command (Santa Monica): "It wasn't one of his planes" but "I wish we did...I sure would have liked to see that Thing"
- William M. Allen, president Boeing Aircraft Co. (Seattle): "I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of our planes"
## Explanations Offered
- Army Air Forces and US Weather Bureau suggested radar weather observation balloon
- Balloons are 10 feet diameter with square tinfoil boxes fastened
- Boxes reflect light giving "strange illusions" as they twist and turn
- Maxwell Field sends up at six-hour intervals
- Maxwell Field is at Montgomery
## Administrative
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## Witness Account Details
Pilots admitted they had "goose pimples riding pick-a-back on goose pimples"
## Passenger Witness (C. L. McKelvie)
- Columbus, Ohio resident
- Was awake and allegedly saw same thing
- When questioned at Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
- Said "not exactly" - saw "no form of ship" whatever
- Observed "continuous light speed past" his window
- "I'm not very well versed in aeronautics, and certainly I wasn't looking for any Buck Rogers space ship"
## Official Military Denial
- Gen. George C. Kenney (Strategic Air Command, Santa Monica): cautiously said not one of his planes
- "I wish we did... I sure would have liked to see that Thing"
## Boeing Aircraft Response
- William M. Allen, president of Boeing Aircraft Co. (Seattle)
- "I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of our planes"
- Said modestly
## Official Explanations
- Army Air Forces (Washington) and US Weather Bureau (Montgomery) almost identical statements
- Suggested Atlanta pilots flew past air radar weather observation balloon
- Balloons 10 feet in diameter
- Have square tinfoil boxes fastened to them
- Boxes reflect light, "give strange illusions" as twist and turn
- Maxwell Field sends up at six-hour intervals
- Maxwell Field located at Montgomery
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Flying Saucer toy instruction manual continuation - includes "Flight Instructions", "Sail 'em Back and Forth", "Make 'em Turn", "Make 'em Come Back", "Make 'em Skip" sections with diagrams and "The Game of Heckle" rules. Published by PIPCO Products, San Luis Obispo, California
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